What to know about tonight's debate
- Sen. JD Vance, R-Ohio, and Minnesota Gov. Tim Walz faced off tonight â their first time meeting in person â in the lone vice presidential debate of the 2024 campaign.
- After first talking about the escalating conflict in the Middle East, with both candidates voicing support for Israel while diverging over how they think the U.S. should approach Iran, Vance and Walz were asked about climate change, which Vance appeared to call "weird science."
- A heated back-and-forth over each ticket's plans for immigration policy ended with the debate moderators muting microphones after Vance made extended remarks about Haitian immigrants legally residing in Springfield, Ohio.
- A discussion about abortion rights and restrictions was overshadowed in part by a Trump social media post during the debate in which he said for the first time that he would not support a federal abortion ban and instead would veto such a measure.
- During comments about gun violence, Walz revealed that his 17-year-old son had witnessed a shooting at a community center. Vance responded by saying he didn't know that about the governor's son, adding, "I'm sorry about that."
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Don Jr., who lobbied for Vance pick, praises his debate performance
Asked in the postdebate spin room about Vanceâs agreeableness in the debate, Donald Trump Jr. said, "That's the guy JD is."
"The reality is I chose him in part because I understood his demeanor and, you know, character," he said.
NBC News reported in July that Trump Jr. and Eric Trump lobbied the former president to choose Vance as his running mate. A Republican operative familiar with the discussions told NBC News that, during a call with their father, "they were basically all like âJD, JD, JD.â"
Kate Snow talks with Pennsylvania voters after the debate
Nearly every voter in a group of Pennsylvanians watching the debate with NBC News' Kate Snow raised their hands to say Walz won the debate. Some of the voters were undecided, while others knew whom they wanted to back.
One voter who was thinking about voting for Trump said Vance was "dancing around questions."
He said his opinion has not changed much after the debate.
Another voter expressed the importance of getting American hostages out of Gaza in describing her top voting priorities.
Another voter said she felt it was "incredibly, incredibly offensive" for Trump to refer to people convicted of crimes from their actions on Jan. 6, 2021, as "hostages."
âDamning non-answerâ: Vance refuses to acknowledge Trump lost the 2020 election
Vance refused to acknowledge that Trump lost the 2020 presidential election during the vice presidential debate tonight and downplayed the seriousness of the Jan. 6, 2021, attack on the U.S. Capitol, which injured more than 140 law enforcement officers.
He also declined to say whether he would seek to challenge the results of this yearâs election.
Toward the end of the debate, Walz asked Vance to affirm that Trump lost the last election. âDid he lose the 2020 election?â Walz asked.
Fact checking Walz on his China claims
Pressed about claims that he was in China during the Tiananmen Square massacre, despite contemporaneous news reports that placed him in Nebraska at the time, Walz downplayed his past comments.
Statement
âAll I said on this is that I got there that summer and misspoke on this. I will just â thatâs what I said, so I was in Hong Kong and China during the democracy protests."
Verdict
He's downplaying his own previous false claims.
Analysis
Walz had said he was in Hong Kong in May and June, including on the day the massacre occurred in Beijing.
âI was in Hong Kong on June 4, 1989, when, of course, Tiananmen Square happened. And I was in China after that. It was very strange âcause, of course, all outside transmissions were, were blocked â Voice of America â and, of course, there was no, no phones or email or anything. So I was kind of out of touch. It took me a month to know the Berlin Wall had fallen when I was living there,â he said in a June 2019 radio interview, according to CNN.Â
Contemporaneous newspaper reports â first reported by Minnesota Public Radio News and APM Reports â place Walz in Nebraska at the time.
Verdict
He's downplaying his own previous false claims.
Analysis
Walz had said he was in Hong Kong in May and June, including on the day the massacre occurred in Beijing.
âI was in Hong Kong on June 4, 1989, when, of course, Tiananmen Square happened. And I was in China after that. It was very strange âcause, of course, all outside transmissions were, were blocked â Voice of America â and, of course, there was no, no phones or email or anything. So I was kind of out of touch. It took me a month to know the Berlin Wall had fallen when I was living there,â he said in a June 2019 radio interview, according to CNN.Â
Contemporaneous newspaper reports â first reported by Minnesota Public Radio News and APM Reports â place Walz in Nebraska at the time.
Charts: Compare the 2020 VP debate to the 2024 debate
When Harris debated Mike Pence four years ago in the 2020 vice presidential debate, Trump and Covid-19 were the dominant topics. Times have changed. These charts highlight what was talked about and who did the talking in the 2024 and 2020 vice presidential debates.
Vance on whether Walz was nervous: 'Honestly, I didn't notice it'
Asked by Fox News' Sean Hannity after the debate whether he thought Walz was nervous, Vance said, âHonestly, I didnât notice it, man."
"I was nervous. This is the biggest stage of my life. I tried not to focus on his demeanor," Vance added.
Walz orders pizza after debate
Walz and his wife, Gwen Walz, stopped by Justino's Pizza in Manhattan after the debate.
There were only a few people in the shop.
Walz said the debate was good because the public got to see a contrast. He did not answer shouted questions about his Hong Kong trip or his line about being friends with school shooters.
When asked about religion, he said weâre Lutherans, we donât talk about it (jokingly looked at his wife.)
Supporters were outside yelling "Coach!" when he left and he took a photo with a person outside.
Vance: Â Debate was 'opportunity to get 90 minutes with the American people'
In an interview with Fox News' Sean Hannity after the debate, Vance said he saw the debate "as an opportunity to get 90 minutes with the American people."
Vance said one of his goals was to "remind the American people that Donald Trump is not the caricature Kamala Harris and the media have made him out to be."
He also wanted to point out that "we had low inflation, things were going well, things were more peacefulâ under Trump, a point he said was easier to make with the current instability in the Middle East.
âWhen the world is going to crap and it looks increasingly more violent, you want steady, proven leadership, and thatâs Donald Trump," he said.
Fact check: Have the current administration's energy policies driven up heating costs?
Statement
"We are a rich and prosperous enough country where every American, whether they're rich or poor, ought to be able to turn on their heat in the middle of a cold winter night. That's gotten more difficult thanks to Kamala Harris' energy policies."
Verdict
This is mostly false.
Analysis
Home heating and cooling costs have risen in many parts of the country in recent years, but not due to Biden-Harris administration energy policies.
Extreme seasonal temperatures are largely at fault, particularly the scorching summer weather that drives up air-conditioning usage and strains electricity demand. That, in turn, has stretched a longstanding federal aid program for low-income households that was originally designed only to subsidize winter heating bills.
Renewable power generation has been getting cheaper as more sustainable sources come online, though that hasn't always translated directly to lower costs for users. Domestic crude oil production is already at record levels, with the U.S. outpacing both Russia and Saudi Arabia every year since 2018.
Verdict
This is mostly false.
Analysis
Home heating and cooling costs have risen in many parts of the country in recent years, but not due to Biden-Harris administration energy policies.
Extreme seasonal temperatures are largely at fault, particularly the scorching summer weather that drives up air-conditioning usage and strains electricity demand. That, in turn, has stretched a longstanding federal aid program for low-income households that was originally designed only to subsidize winter heating bills.
Renewable power generation has been getting cheaper as more sustainable sources come online, though that hasn't always translated directly to lower costs for users. Domestic crude oil production is already at record levels, with the U.S. outpacing both Russia and Saudi Arabia every year since 2018.
Fact check: Does Minnesota's abortion protection law allow doctors to deny lifesaving care to infants?
Statement
âThe Minnesota law that you signed into law, the statute that you signed into law, it says that a doctor who presides over an abortion where the baby survives, the doctor is under no obligation to provide lifesaving care to a baby who survives a botched late-term abortion.â
Verdict
This is false.
Analysis
The law Walz signed in Minnesota in January 2023 states that âevery individual has a fundamental right to make autonomous decisions about the individual's own reproductive healthâ and that âevery individual who becomes pregnant has a fundamental right to continue the pregnancy and give birth, or obtain an abortion, and to make autonomous decisions about how to exercise this fundamental right.â
The policy enshrined into state law its existing protections for reproductive care at the time.
Passage of the 2023 law led to the removal of certain language from Minnesota statutes, including language that required physicians to âpreserve the life and healthâ of an infant âborn alive.â State statutes now say that âall reasonable measures consistent with good medical practice ⦠shall be taken by the responsible medical personnel to care for the infant who is born alive.â
Anti-abortion-rights advocates have claimed that language means infants who survive abortions can be denied care.
While some Democrats, including Walz, support broad access to abortion, infanticide is illegal in every state, and no Democrats advocate for it.Â
In addition, abortions late in pregnancy are exceedingly rare â nationally and in Minnesota. Just 1% of abortions are performed after 21 weeksâ gestation, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, and they are typically due to serious medical causes.
Although the Minnesota law does not state a specific time in pregnancy after which an abortion is not permitted, the state previously restricted the procedure after a fetus reaches viability â usually around 24 weeks. That restriction remains enjoined.
The Minnesota Department of Healthâs most recent annual report on induced abortions (for 2022) found that there were only two recorded abortions in the state after the 25th week of pregnancy.
Verdict
This is false.
Analysis
The law Walz signed in Minnesota in January 2023 states that âevery individual has a fundamental right to make autonomous decisions about the individual's own reproductive healthâ and that âevery individual who becomes pregnant has a fundamental right to continue the pregnancy and give birth, or obtain an abortion, and to make autonomous decisions about how to exercise this fundamental right.â
The policy enshrined into state law its existing protections for reproductive care at the time.
Passage of the 2023 law led to the removal of certain language from Minnesota statutes, including language that required physicians to âpreserve the life and healthâ of an infant âborn alive.â State statutes now say that âall reasonable measures consistent with good medical practice ⦠shall be taken by the responsible medical personnel to care for the infant who is born alive.â
Anti-abortion-rights advocates have claimed that language means infants who survive abortions can be denied care.
While some Democrats, including Walz, support broad access to abortion, infanticide is illegal in every state, and no Democrats advocate for it.Â
In addition, abortions late in pregnancy are exceedingly rare â nationally and in Minnesota. Just 1% of abortions are performed after 21 weeksâ gestation, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, and they are typically due to serious medical causes.
Although the Minnesota law does not state a specific time in pregnancy after which an abortion is not permitted, the state previously restricted the procedure after a fetus reaches viability â usually around 24 weeks. That restriction remains enjoined.
The Minnesota Department of Healthâs most recent annual report on induced abortions (for 2022) found that there were only two recorded abortions in the state after the 25th week of pregnancy.
5 key takeaways from the VP debate between JD Vance and Tim Walz
Vance and Walz clashed tonight over everything from economic and gun policy to immigration and school shootings in the only vice presidential debate of the election.
They largely kept things cordial personally, even appearing chummy at times and saying they could work with each other. But they repeatedly savaged each otherâs running mates and defended their party policies and tickets.
The debate, hosted by CBS News in New York City, could be the last event featuring candidates from both campaigns, with Harris and Trump not currently scheduled to debate again.
Fact check: Vance suggests Trump simply wanted to 'debate' 2020 election 'problems'
Statement
"What President Trump has said is that there were problems in 2020, and my belief is that we should fight about those issues, debate those issues peacefully in the public square. And that's all I've said, and that's all that Donald Trump has said."
Verdict
This is misleading.
Analysis
Vance vastly understated Trumpâs handling of his 2020 election loss by claiming he simply wanted to have a peaceful debate about problems with the election.
Trump has been indicted twice for seeking to overturn the results of the 2020 election. He repeatedly and falsely claimed that he won the election, making baseless allegations of widespread voter fraud. He made the false claim even as votes were still being counted, and as Congress was certifying the results on Jan. 6, 2021. Speaking to the crowd that would march on and attack the Capitol, Trump falsely claimed the election had been stolen from him and that he could still take the presidency if Vice President Mike Pence did âthe right thing.â
Verdict
This is misleading.
Analysis
Vance vastly understated Trumpâs handling of his 2020 election loss by claiming he simply wanted to have a peaceful debate about problems with the election.
Trump has been indicted twice for seeking to overturn the results of the 2020 election. He repeatedly and falsely claimed that he won the election, making baseless allegations of widespread voter fraud. He made the false claim even as votes were still being counted, and as Congress was certifying the results on Jan. 6, 2021. Speaking to the crowd that would march on and attack the Capitol, Trump falsely claimed the election had been stolen from him and that he could still take the presidency if Vice President Mike Pence did âthe right thing.â
Vance wasn't asked about his 'childless cat ladies' comment
Though it was a frequent criticism of Vance throughout the summer, his 2021 comment that resurfaced in July about "childless cat ladies" didn't come up on the debate stage tonight.
In an interview with Tucker Carlson on Fox News in 2021, Vance said Harris was one of the "childless cat ladies" running the country.
âIf you look at Kamala Harris, Pete Buttigieg, AOC [Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez], the entire future of the Democrats is controlled by people without children," he said at the time.
When the comments went viral in July, Vance doubled down on them and told Megyn Kelly: âObviously, it was a sarcastic comment. Iâve got nothing against cats." He blamed the media for "focusing so much on the sarcasm and not on the substance of what I actually said.â
The debate ends how it began: With a handshake
Unlike the past two debates this election season, the vice presidential debate ended with a handshake between the two candidates â and the two candidates and their wives, who joined them onstage, even stood around chatting for a bit.
Vance accuses Biden-Harris administration of making life more difficult for working Americans
In his closing statement, Vance accused the Biden-Harris administration of making it harder for everyday Americans to afford "a nice meal for your family," buy a house, live in a safe neighborhood and avoid the scourge of fentanyl.
"She's been the vice president for 3½ years," Vance said, referring to Harris. "Her policies have made these problems worse."
Vance said the American people will not be able to "achieve their full dreams" unless voters reject "the broken leadership in Washington" and vote for Trump.
Walz highlights Harris' 'politics of joy' in closing remarks
During his closing statement, Walz started with a joke, thanking Americans who are watching for missing "Dancing With the Stars."
He highlighted prominent endorsements of the Harris ticket, including Dick Cheney and Taylor Swift. "They don't all agree on everything, but they are truly optimistic people. They believe in a positive future of this country, and one where our politics can be better than it is," Walz said.
Walz emphasized that Harris is "bringing us a politics of joy."
"She's bringing real solutions for the middle class, and she's centering you at the heart of that, all the while asking everyone: Join this movement, make your voices heard. Let's look for a new day where everybody gets that opportunity, and everybody gets a chance to thrive," he said.
Fact check: Are border crossings down compared to when Trump left office?
Statement
âLook, [border] crossings are down compared to when Donald Trump left office.â
Verdict
This needs context.
Analysis
According to the latest Customs and Border Protection data available, there were an estimated 2,756,646 migrant encounters between and at U.S. ports of entry in fiscal year 2024.
While the number of migrant encounters has dipped during the Biden administration in recent months, in part because of a June executive action putting limits on migrants seeking asylum between ports of entry, the total number of national encounters during the Biden administration so far is about 10 million, compared with an estimated 3 million during the Trump administration.
Verdict
This needs context.
Analysis
According to the latest Customs and Border Protection data available, there were an estimated 2,756,646 migrant encounters between and at U.S. ports of entry in fiscal year 2024.
While the number of migrant encounters has dipped during the Biden administration in recent months, in part because of a June executive action putting limits on migrants seeking asylum between ports of entry, the total number of national encounters during the Biden administration so far is about 10 million, compared with an estimated 3 million during the Trump administration.
Fact check: Did Trump save Obamacare?
Statement
â[Trump] saved the very program from a Democratic administration that was collapsing and would have collapsed absent his leadership.â
Verdict
This is false.
Analysis
Enrollment in the Affordable Care Act, also known as Obamacare, declined by more than 2 million people during Trumpâs presidency, and the number of uninsured people rose by 2.3 million, according to an analysis published in Health Affairs.Â
During Trumpâs term, he made numerous threats against and attempts to repeal the ACA. While he was unsuccessful, in 2017, Republicans in Congress eliminated the tax penalty linked to the law's individual mandate, which required people to have health insurance or pay a tax. The mandate is still in place, but people no longer pay a penalty if they donât enroll.
As president, Trump also promoted short-term health plans â also known as junk plans â which often come with substantially lower monthly premiums than other forms of insurance but tend to offer less coverage. Many of the plans donât cover pre-existing conditions or prescription drugs.
Verdict
This is false.
Analysis
Enrollment in the Affordable Care Act, also known as Obamacare, declined by more than 2 million people during Trumpâs presidency, and the number of uninsured people rose by 2.3 million, according to an analysis published in Health Affairs.Â
During Trumpâs term, he made numerous threats against and attempts to repeal the ACA. While he was unsuccessful, in 2017, Republicans in Congress eliminated the tax penalty linked to the law's individual mandate, which required people to have health insurance or pay a tax. The mandate is still in place, but people no longer pay a penalty if they donât enroll.
As president, Trump also promoted short-term health plans â also known as junk plans â which often come with substantially lower monthly premiums than other forms of insurance but tend to offer less coverage. Many of the plans donât cover pre-existing conditions or prescription drugs.
Walz says Vance gave a 'damning non-answer' about whether Trump lost in 2020
During an exchange between Vance and Walz, Walz asked Vance whether Trump lost the 2020 election.
"Tim, Iâm focused on the future," Vance said. "Did Kamala Harris censor Americans from speaking their mind in the wake of the 2020 Covid situation?"
"That is a damning. That is a damning non-answer," Walz said.
"Itâs a damning non-answer for you to not talk about censorship," Vance said. "Obviously, Donald Trump and I think that there were problems in 2020 â weâve talked about it. Iâm happy to talk about it further. But you guys attack us for not believing in democracy. The most sacred right under the United States, democracy is the First Amendment. You, yourself, have said thereâs no First Amendment right to misinformation. Kamala Harris wants to threaten government and big tech to silence people from speaking their minds."
Fact check: Did Iran receive $100 billion in unfrozen assets from the U.S.?
Statement
"Iran, which launched this attack, has received over $100 billion in unfrozen assets thanks to the Kamala Harris administration."
Verdict
This is misleading.
Analysis
As part of the 2015 nuclear deal with Iran brokered by the Obama Administration, $50 billion in Iranian assets were unfrozen by the United States. Harris was not a member of the Obama administration.
As part of a 2023 prisoner exchange negotiated by the Biden Administration with Iran, another $6 billion in Iranian assets were set to be unfrozen. But after Hamas's Oct. 7 terrorist attack on Israel, U.S. officials blocked Iran from accessing the $6 billion. A total of $50 billion in Iranian assets were unfrozen by the Obama and Biden administrations, not $100 billion.
Verdict
This is misleading.
Analysis
As part of the 2015 nuclear deal with Iran brokered by the Obama Administration, $50 billion in Iranian assets were unfrozen by the United States. Harris was not a member of the Obama administration.
As part of a 2023 prisoner exchange negotiated by the Biden Administration with Iran, another $6 billion in Iranian assets were set to be unfrozen. But after Hamas's Oct. 7 terrorist attack on Israel, U.S. officials blocked Iran from accessing the $6 billion. A total of $50 billion in Iranian assets were unfrozen by the Obama and Biden administrations, not $100 billion.
Vance dodges on whether he would challenge election results this year
In response to a question about whether he would challenge this year's election results, Vance dodged, instead defending Trump's actions on Jan. 6, 2021, saying, "Remember, [Trump] said that on January the 6th, the protesters ought to protest peacefully, and on January the 20th, what happened? Joe Biden became the president. Donald Trump left the White House."
Vance went on to blame tech companies for "censoring their fellow citizens" and later touted former Democratic Rep. Tulsi Gabbard's and Robert F. Kennedy Jr.'s endorsements of Trump's campaign.
Walz leans into union references
Walz has mentioned unions multiple times during this debate, a departure from last month's debate between Harris and Trump. Harris did not mention unions once, according to a transcript of that debate, and Trump mentioned them twice briefly in one of his answers.
Vance defends Trump comments on child care being relatively 'not very expensive'
Vance was asked about Trump's saying child care was "not very expensive" compared to money the country would take in from his policies.
Asked whether Trump is committed to a child tax credit, Vance said Trump was talking about the country's taking in "a lot of money" by penalizing companies "shipping jobs overseas" and countries using "slave laborers."
Walz emphasizes need for paid family medical leave; Vance says there should be a 'family care model'
The two candidates seem to find some common ground on needing to make family leave more accessible and affordable, though they differ on how exactly to do so.
Walz noted that Minnesota is home to some of the largest Fortune 500 companies that provide paid family medical leave.
"They think itâs good thing, but it also keeps their employees healthy," he said, adding that Minnesota has a law that "allows you to stay home a certain amount of time. ... What we know is that gets the child off to a better start."
Asked whether he supports a national paid leave program and if so, for how long, Vance said he thinks there's a "bipartisan solution."
"The cultural pressure on young families, and especially young women, I think makes it really hard for people to choose the family model they want. A lot of young women would like to go back to work immediately. Some would like to spend a little time home with the kids. Some would like to spend longer at home with the kids. We should have a family care model," he said.
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Vance falsely claims Trump didn't try to get rid of Obamacare
Speaking about Obamacare, Vance claimed that âDonald Trump couldâve destroyed the program. Instead, he worked in a bipartisan way to ensure that Americans had access to affordable care.â
This is flatly false. Trump worked in a partisan way to try to destroy the Affordable Care Act. He simply failed to do it.
Given a chance to respond to Vance's remarks, Walz fact-checked the senator, telling viewers: "On day one, he [Trump] tried to sign an executive order to repeal the ACA. He signed on to a lawsuit to repeal the ACA, but lost at the Supreme Court, and he would have repealed the ACA had it not been for the courage of [the late GOP Sen.] John McCain to save that bill."
Undecided Pennsylvania voter says women's issues are a 'low hanging fruit'
Reporting from a debate watch party in Pittsburgh
NBC News is watching the vice presidential debate with middle-of-the-road voters in Pittsburgh.
Clair Pro, 36, is an undecided voter. She believes womenâs issues are a âlow-hanging fruitâ that politicians use to ârally us.â

She told NBC News that it is âvery hard for me to look at two men who are talking about what weâre going to do in a doctorâs office.â
âThis is a decision between a woman and her doctor, and thereâs no one else involved,â Pro said.
Chart: What the candidates are talking about the most
More than an hour into the debate, âcharacter and fitnessâ is now the most-discussed issue. Earlier in the debate, immigration led.
NBC News is keeping track of what the candidates are discussing in real time here.
Vance says Harris should 'use the office that the American people already gave her'
Vance emphasized Harris' current role in the administration during an exchange about housing, saying, "She is the sitting vice president."
"If she wants to enact all of these policies to make housing more affordable, I invite her to use the office that the American people already gave her, not sit around and campaign and do nothing while Americans find the American dream of homeownership completely unaffordable," he said.
Republicans have frequently pointed to Harris' past 3½ years as vice president, arguing that she could have already achieved some of her policy priorities.
Walz says his 17-year-old son witnessed a shooting at a community center
In response to a question about gun violence, Walz said his 17-year-old son witnessed a shooting at a community center while playing he was volleyball.
"Those things donât leave you as a member of Congress," Walz said.
Vance said he didn't know that about Walz's son and added, "I'm sorry about that."
The shooting happened in January 2023 in St. Paul. Aides said Gus Walz was at the center with other kids when, according to Minnesota Public Radio, a recreation center employee shot a boy in the head and fled after they got into an argument.
Walz continued about gun violence: "Look, Iâm a hunter. I own firearms. The vice president is. We understand that the Second Amendment is there, but our first responsibility to our kids is to figure this out."
Walz said Minnesota has enhanced red flag laws and background checks. He said that just because someone has a mental health issue doesn't mean they're violent.
"Sometimes it just is the guns. It's just the guns, and there are things that you can do about it," he said. "I think there's a capacity to find solutions on this that work: Protect the Second Amendment, protect our children. That's our priority."
Walz and Vance tackle housing crisis
The VP candidates took drastically different tones on housing, with Walz defending Harris' promise of providing $25,000 down payment assistance for first-time homebuyers, enacting a $10,000 tax credit and building 3 million new homes.
Vance, meanwhile, defended Trump's plan to seize federal lands to build new properties. He also accused undocumented immigrants of contributing to the affordable housing shortage and said the government should be "kicking" them out of their homes.
Walz and Vance aren't talking much about the other guy onstage
Again and again, Walz and Vance are giving each other the benefit of the doubt, while using every opportunity to attack their running mates. Walz isnât bringing up Vanceâs controversial rhetoric; heâs making it all about Trump, Trump, Trump. And Vanceâs tone tends to shift dramatically when heâs talking to Walz; he often says he believes Walz wants to solve a particular problem and then argues that Harris doesnât and rips into her.
Walz on gun debate: 'This a healthy conversation'
This is the most nuanced and holistic debate on this issue I have heard, and I have covered almost every major school or mass shooting since and including Virginia Tech in 2007.
Walz seemed to agree, saying: âI think this a healthy conversation. I think thereâs a capacity to find solutions on this that work.â
Discussing how to prevent school shootings, Vance said schools need to increase security â while acknowledging that the situation isn't ideal.
âI say, not loving the answer, because I donât want my kids to go to school and a school that feels unsafe or where there are visible signs of security, but I unfortunately think that we have to increase security in our schools,â he said.
He added: âWe have to make the doors lock better. We have to make the door stronger. Weâve got to make the windows stronger, and of course, weâve got to increase school resource officers, because the idea that we can magically wave a wand and take guns out of the hands of bad guys, it just doesnât fit with recent experience. So weâve got to make our schools safer, and I think weâve got to have some common-sense, bipartisan solutions for how to do that.â
Vance, decrying 'terrible epidemic of gun violence,' calls for more school security
Responding to a question about gun violence, Vance lamented the "terrible epidemic of gun violence" across the U.S., adding: "We have to do better."
He claimed that the "gross majority" of gun violence in the U.S. is committed with illegally obtained firearms and blamed the Biden-Harris administration's border policy for the influx of illegal weapons.
Vance outlined a second policy proposal: "Unfortunately, I think we have to increase security in our schools."
He said U.S. schools need to make doors "lock better," strengthen windows and add school resource officers.
"The idea that we can magically wave a wand and take guns out of the hands of bad guys, it just doesnât fit with recent experience," Vance said near the end of his remarks.
Trump stakes new abortion position in post to Truth Social while VP candidates debate the issue
Trump posted to Truth Social and said in an all-caps post that he would "not support a federal abortion ban," but would veto it.
He said that the matter is "up to the states to decide based on the will of their voters."
"I fully support the three exceptions for rape, incest, and the life of the mother," the post continued.
During the presidential debate earlier this month, Trump refused to say whether he would veto a national abortion ban bill â despite Vance saying during an August interview with NBC's "Meet the Press" that Trump would. Asked in the post-debate spin room about Vance's comments, Trump said, "I didnât discuss it with JD."
Chart: Candidates are now spending more time on topic than off
As of the first commercial break, the candidates are spending more time talking on topic than they were closer to the start of the debate.
See a live-updating graphic tracking what the candidates are talking about.
Fact check: Have 1 million migrants who crossed the border illegally committed other forms of crime?
Statement
"I think the first thing that we do is we start with the criminal migrants. About a million of those people have had some form of crime in addition to crossing the border illegally.â
Verdict
This is false.
Analysis
According to a letter addressed to Congress from acting ICE Director P.J. Lechleitner, there were 662,566 noncitizens with pending charges or convictions on the Immigration and Customs Enforcement docket as of July 21.
However, a spokesperson for the Department of Homeland Security told NBC News on Saturday that some of the data predates the Biden administration, going back as far as four decades. When it comes to migrants who have arrived during the Biden administration, an estimated 10 million encounters have been recorded between and at U.S. ports of entry. Among those, about 115,000 noncitizens have been flagged to have criminal backgrounds.
Verdict
This is false.
Analysis
According to a letter addressed to Congress from acting ICE Director P.J. Lechleitner, there were 662,566 noncitizens with pending charges or convictions on the Immigration and Customs Enforcement docket as of July 21.
However, a spokesperson for the Department of Homeland Security told NBC News on Saturday that some of the data predates the Biden administration, going back as far as four decades. When it comes to migrants who have arrived during the Biden administration, an estimated 10 million encounters have been recorded between and at U.S. ports of entry. Among those, about 115,000 noncitizens have been flagged to have criminal backgrounds.
As Walz notes, maternal mortality rates rose in Texas after abortion ban
Walz mentioned maternal mortality rates in Texas after abortion bans. NBC News reported last month that the rate of maternal deaths in Texas increased 56% from 2019 to 2022, and particularly following the stateâs 2021 ban on abortion care, compared with just 11% nationwide during the same time period.
Walz on abortion rights: Trump 'put this all into motion'
Asked whether he supports abortion in the ninth month in Minnesota, Walz said, "That's not what the bill says," referring to a law he signed last year.
He added that Trump, who appointed Supreme Court justices who helped overturn Roe v. Wade, "put this all into motion" and then pivoted to a series of examples of women and girls being affected by abortion access limitations or sexual violence.
"This is about health care," Walz said about abortion rights.
Last year, Walz signed a bill that enshrined the right to an abortion into law statewide. Proponents of the law said it would provide additional protections for abortion rights if the state court composition changed. Opponents criticized the few restrictions the bill put on abortion.
Walz: 'If Amber Thurman lived in Minnesota, sheâd be alive today'
During an exchange on abortion, Walz invoked the name of Amber Nicole Thurman, a woman who traveled to North Carolina for abortion care and later died when she wasn't able to get care for a rare complication from the abortion pill.
"There's a very good chance that if Amber Thurman lived in Minnesota, she'd be alive today," Walz said, touting his work expanding access to reproductive care in his state.
Vance tries to get personal on abortion
Vance took a softer tone on abortion tonight, saying he knew a lot of young women who terminated unplanned pregnancies because felt like they didn't have other options.
"One of them is actually very dear to me, and I know she's watching tonight, and I love you," he said, adding that each person is different and each state might have a different attitude toward the topic.
"We've got to do so much better of a job at earning the American people's trust back on this issue where they frankly, just don't trust us," he went on. "And I think that's one of the things that Donald Trump and I are endeavoring to do."
Trump was asked about Vance's comments on abortion in his own debate
Reporting from the VP debate in Manhattan
The last time abortion came up on the debate stage â when Trump was asked about Vance's saying on NBC News' "Meet the Press" that Trump would veto a national abortion ban â Trump undermined Vanceâs answer: âI didnât discuss it with JD.â
Fact check: Did Trump's economic policies deliver the highest take-home pay in a generation?
Statement
"When people say that Donald Trump's economic plan doesn't make sense, I say look at the record, he delivered rising take-home pay for American workers. ... You've got to pretend that Donald Trump didn't deliver rising take-home pay, which of course he did."
Verdict
This needs context.
Analysis
At least three times during the first 40 minutes of the debate, Vance claimed that Trump's economic policies were responsible for rising take-home pa. At one point, he claimed that Trump's policies delivered "the highest take-home pay in a generation in this country."
In theory this is true, but it's important to note that net compensation has essentially risen every year for the last 33 years.
Social Security Administration data shows that average net compensation has actually risen every year since 1991, with only one exception (2008 to 2009).
Verdict
This needs context.
Analysis
At least three times during the first 40 minutes of the debate, Vance claimed that Trump's economic policies were responsible for rising take-home pa. At one point, he claimed that Trump's policies delivered "the highest take-home pay in a generation in this country."
In theory this is true, but it's important to note that net compensation has essentially risen every year for the last 33 years.
Social Security Administration data shows that average net compensation has actually risen every year since 1991, with only one exception (2008 to 2009).
Walz ties Vance to unpopular Project 2025
Walz name-checked Project 2025, as the conservative blueprint for a second Trump administration is deeply unpopular with voters.
The latest national NBC News poll found Project 2025 is well-known, with around 3 in 4 voters voicing opinions about it. The poll also found it was highly unpopular, with a combined 57% viewing it negatively, including 51% who view it "very" negatively. Just 4 % have positive views of Project 2025.
Walz admits he 'misspoke' about attending Tiananmen Square protests
Walz tried to sidestep a question clarifying whether he was in Hong Kong during the deadly Tiananmen Square protests in spring 1989 after Minnesota Public Radio reported that he had fibbed about the date of his visit.
He tried to dodge the question by talking about a program for young people, but the moderators would not let him get off topic.
"All I said on this was as I got there that summer and misspoke on this, so I will just that's what I've said," he responded. "So I was in Hong Kong and China during the democracy protests."
Fact check: Has Biden deployed more than 40,000 troops to the Middle East?
Statement
âEarlier today, Iran launched its largest attack yet on Israel, but that attack failed, thanks to joint U.S. and Israeli defensive action. President Biden has deployed more than 40,000 U.S. military personnel and assets to that region over the past year to try to prevent a regional war.â
Verdict
This is false.
Analysis
There are about 40,000 U.S. military members in the Middle East (and a few thousand more are on the way as the additional troops announced over the weekend move in), but there were already more than 30,000 troops in the Middle East on Oct. 7. The U.S. has rotated thousands of troops into the Middle East since Oct. 7, but there was not an addition of 40,000 more troops.
Verdict
This is false.
Analysis
There are about 40,000 U.S. military members in the Middle East (and a few thousand more are on the way as the additional troops announced over the weekend move in), but there were already more than 30,000 troops in the Middle East on Oct. 7. The U.S. has rotated thousands of troops into the Middle East since Oct. 7, but there was not an addition of 40,000 more troops.
Vance defends his previous criticisms of Trump
Addressing Vance, moderator Margaret Brennan said he had previously called Trump unfit for the highest office and said he could be "America's Hitler."
Asked why Americans should trust him to give Trump the advice he needs to hear, Vance said "of course" he has disagreed with him.
"Iâve also been extremely open about the fact that I was wrong about Donald Trump. I was wrong, first of all, because I believed some of the media stories that turned out to be dishonest fabrications of his record," he said.
"But most importantly, Donald Trump delivered for the American people: rising wages, rising take-home pay, an economy that worked for normal Americans, a secure southern border, a lot of things, frankly, that I didnât think youâd be able to deliver on. And yeah, when you screw up, when you misspeak, when you get something wrong and you change your mind, you ought to be honest with the American people," he added.
Vance said he has been consistent in saying that there were a "lot of things that we could have done better in the Trump administration the first round if Congress was doing its job."
Chart: The leading topics in the debate
Immigration accounts for more than six of the nearly 30 minutes tracked in the debate so far. NBC News is tracking what the candidates are talking about in real time here.
Fact check: Is housing 60% more expensive under the Biden administration?
Statement
â[Harris] had the opportunity to enact all of these great policies, and what sheâs actually done instead is drive the cost of food higher by 25%, drive the cost of housing higher by about 60%, open the American southern border and make middle-class life unaffordable."
Verdict
This is an exaggeration.
Analysis
Vance is on the money about the run-up in food costs, though that jump was mainly driven by pandemic-era shifts in demand and supply-chain shocks. But his housing cost claim appears to be exaggerated â or at the very least, limited to home buyers, not renters.
A pair of Washington Post analyses found that home prices have surged 54% since 2019, while rent prices have risen by 19% since 2019. A separate Realtor.com report in August found that the typical listed home price has grown by 32.6% since July 2019.
Verdict
This is an exaggeration.
Analysis
Vance is on the money about the run-up in food costs, though that jump was mainly driven by pandemic-era shifts in demand and supply-chain shocks. But his housing cost claim appears to be exaggerated â or at the very least, limited to home buyers, not renters.
A pair of Washington Post analyses found that home prices have surged 54% since 2019, while rent prices have risen by 19% since 2019. A separate Realtor.com report in August found that the typical listed home price has grown by 32.6% since July 2019.
Fact check: Does the U.S have the world's cleanest economy?
Statement
"We're the cleanest economy in the entire world."
Verdict
This is false.
Analysis
Vance defined a "clean economy" as "the amount of carbon emissions theyâre doing per unit of economic output" but did not offer further explanation.
There is little evidence to support the assertion. Yaleâs Environmental Performance Index ranks the U.S. 34th globally across 11 metrics, from carbon emissions to sustainable agriculture. The World Economic Forum ranks the U.S. 19th globally in the transition to clean energy. In addition, Global Carbon Budget calculates that the U.S. produces nearly 15 metric tons of carbon emissions per capita. That number is higher than other developed nations like Ireland, Norway and Spain.
Verdict
This is false.
Analysis
Vance defined a "clean economy" as "the amount of carbon emissions theyâre doing per unit of economic output" but did not offer further explanation.
There is little evidence to support the assertion. Yaleâs Environmental Performance Index ranks the U.S. 34th globally across 11 metrics, from carbon emissions to sustainable agriculture. The World Economic Forum ranks the U.S. 19th globally in the transition to clean energy. In addition, Global Carbon Budget calculates that the U.S. produces nearly 15 metric tons of carbon emissions per capita. That number is higher than other developed nations like Ireland, Norway and Spain.
Vance touts the importance of Congress despite missing votes
Reporting from the VP debate in Manhattan
Vanceâs commentary about the importance of the legislative branch rings a little hollow when you consider he has missed every Senate vote since he was added to Trumpâs ticket.
Vance and Walz bicker over whether to 'trust the experts'
In an exchange about the economy, Vance and Walz sparred over whether to "trust the experts" on the economy.
"Economists, don't be trusted. Science can't be trusted. National security folks can't be trusted," Walz said, mocking Trump and Vance, before adding: "Look, if you're going to be president, you don't have all the answers. Donald Trump believes he does. My pro tip of the day is this: If you need heart surgery, listen to the people at the Mayo Clinic in Rochester, Minnesota, not Donald Trump. And the same thing goes with this."
Vance responded to Walz: "Governor, you say trust the experts. But those same experts for 40 years said that if we shipped our manufacturing base off to China, we get cheaper goods. They lied about that."
Vance continued about manufacturing being sent overseas: "This has to stop, and we're not going to stop it by listening to experts. We're going to stop it by listening to common-sense wisdom."
Walz promises tax cuts for the middle class
Asked about a Wharton School analysis that says Harris and Walz's proposals would increase the national deficit by $1.2 trillion, Walz uses a line that has become a staple for him and Harris on the campaign trail, saying both of them come from the middle class and promise to put it first.
Walz says their campaign platform includes promises of 3 million houses, lowering insulin prices, enhancing childhood tax credits and cutting taxes on the middle class.
Walz seems much more comfortable on domestic issues
It is very striking how much more fluent and comfortable Walz is discussing domestic policy than he is talking about foreign policy. His answer about the Iran-Israel conflict was halting, and he appeared visibly nervous. But when the debate turned to immigration and the economy, he appeared well prepared and in his element.
Walz says he's a 'union guy' and doesn't want to ship jobs overseas
Walz said that he's a "union guy" and "not a guy who wanted to ship things overseas," when it comes to companies and jobs.
"We produce soybeans and corn. We need to have fair trading partners. Thatâs something that we believe in. I think the thing that most concerns me on this is Donald Trump was the guy who created the largest trade deficit in American history with China," Walz said.
Walz said that he was in agreement with Vance on this and saw jobs being shipped overseas in his communities in Minnesota.
"But we had people undercutting the right to collectively bargain. We had right to work. States made it more difficult. We had companies that were willing to ship it over," Walz continued. "And we saw people profit, folks that are venture capital, in some cases, putting money into companies that were overseas. Weâre in agreement that we bring those home."
Candidates spar over immigration in Springfield
Walz is first to bring up Springfield, the small Ohio city that recently became ground zero for the Republican candidates' unsubstantiated claims about its large Haitian population. Walz called out Vance for perpetuating baseless rumors about immigrants that "vilified" a large community of mostly legal migrants there.
"I believe Sen. Vance wants to solve this, but by standing with Donald Trump and not working together to find a solution, it becomes a talking point, and when it becomes a talking point like this, we dehumanize and villainize other human beings," Walz said.
Vance shot back, saying he needed to draw attention to the bigger issue of an overwhelmed city that was not prepared to receive a large number of newcomers.
Chart: How much time candidates are spending on and off topic
About 30 minutes in and candidates are spending a nearly equal amount of time off topic as they are on topic, according to NBC News' analysis of the debate. Track what topics the candidates are talking about in real time here.
CBS cuts microphones after Vance interrupts moderator and talks over her
Vance and Walz's microphones were cut off after the Ohio senator interrupted co-moderator Margaret Brennan to continue speaking about immigration policy â an answer he insisted on giving after he said she had unfairly fact-checked him.
"Margaret, the rules were that you guys weren't going to fact-check," Vance said before he launched into a discussion of immigration. But midway through those remarks, the audio dropped out.
âGentlemen, the audience canât hear you because your mics are cut," Brennan said. "We have so much we want to get to. Thank you for explaining the legal process.â
Vance switches from 'illegal aliens' to 'illegal migrants'
Reporting from the VP debate in Manhattan
A notable change in Vanceâs language tonight as he talks about immigration: On the trail, he often calls undocumented migrants âillegal aliens.â As someone who listens to Vance almost every day, hearing him say âillegal migrantsâ instead caught my attention.
Walz invokes his faith when speaking about immigration
Speaking about the bipartisan border bill that died in the Senate this year, Walz told viewers, "I don't talk about my faith a lot, but Matthew 25:40 talks about 'To the least amongst us, you do unto me.'"
"I think that's true of most Americans. They simply want order to it. This bill does it. It's funded. It's supported by the people who do it, and it lets us keep our dignity about how we treat other people," he added.
It's rare for Walz or the three other candidates to bring up their faith on the trail.
Garrett Haake noted: Walz fluent citation from the gospel of Matthew was a rare moment of any of these four candidates sharing any information about their faiths â a departure from past campaigns where candidates made their religion much more central to their personal and political identity.
Vance says government must be 'empowering' law enforcement
When talking about the southern border, Vance said that "the gross majority of what we need to do at the southern border is just empowering law enforcement to do their job."
Vance was asked about whether Congress would need to support changes to border policy because Congress controls monetary policy.
He added that "of course additional resources would help," but said that most of the issue came down to the president and vice president "empowering" law enforcement.
Fact check: How many jobs did the Inflation Reduction Act create?
Statement
âThe Inflation Reduction Act has created jobs all across the country ⦠200,000 jobs across the country.â
Verdict
This needs context.
Analysis
It is difficult to quantify the specific number of jobs created by the Inflation Reduction Act, a law that Biden signed in August 2022, which, among other things, invested heavily in clean energy and related technologies. But some left-leaning organizations, including the Center for American Progress, have conducted analyses that found that the law helped create about 171,000 clean energy jobs within its first year.
Verdict
This needs context.
Analysis
It is difficult to quantify the specific number of jobs created by the Inflation Reduction Act, a law that Biden signed in August 2022, which, among other things, invested heavily in clean energy and related technologies. But some left-leaning organizations, including the Center for American Progress, have conducted analyses that found that the law helped create about 171,000 clean energy jobs within its first year.
Swing state voters say they feel pressure in this election
NBC News is watching the Vice Presidential debate with middle-of-the-road voters in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania.
NBC Newsâ Kate Snow asked a group of six middle-of-the-road voters whether they feel pressure being swing state voters. All six raised their hands.

"At the end of the day the vote is going to come through Pennsylvania,â said Brian Geisler, who is undecided but leaning toward voting for Trump.
âYard signs are everywhere, and they change. In certain neighborhoods there is a predominance of Harris signs; in other neighborhoods there are no Harris signs and it is all Trump,â said Meryl Ainsman, who is voting for Harris.
The group observed that the farther you get from Pittsburgh, the more Trump signs you see.
Trump slams the moderators on social media
Trump slams CBS News moderators Margaret Brennan and Norah O'Donnell on his Truth Social account.
"Both young ladies have been extremely biased Anchors!" Trump wrote of the newswoman, who are both over 40.
Walz slams Trump's meeting with oil executives
During an exchange about climate change, Walz took a shot at Trump's meeting with oil executives.
"To call it a hoax and to take the oil company executives to Mar-a-Lago [and] say, 'Give me money for my campaign, and I'll let you do whatever you want,' we can be smarter about that, and an all-above energy policy is exactly what she's doing, creating those jobs right here," Walz said.
Walz appeared to be referring to oil CEOs who attended a Trump fundraising dinner at Mar-a-Lago. A Washington Post report said that during the dinner, Trump said he would reverse many of Biden's environmental rules and suggested the executives raise $1 billion for his campaign.
Walz attacks Trump on failed border bill
Trumpâs push to kill bipartisan border bill negotiated by Sens. James Lankford, R-Okla., and Chris Murphy, D-Conn., has become the go-to response for Democrats across the country when theyâre quizzed about the chaos on the southern border.
Walz just used it at the debate, saying the bill was good but âDonald Trump said no, told [Republicans] to vote against it, because it gives him a campaign issue. What would Donald Trump talk about if we actually did some of these things?â
Vance, Walz clash over border security as Trump has edge on issue
The latest national NBC News poll finds Trump has an advantage over Harris on the issue of border security.
Voters by a 21-point margin say Trump would do a better job of securing the border and controlling immigration, with 54% saying Trump would better handle the issue, while 33% say Harris.
Walz keeps using stats from Vance's home state to tout Biden-Harris wins
Walz has twice used specific stats about Ohio, Vanceâs state, in his answers defending the Biden-Harris record. He mentioned electric vehicle manufacturing jobs in Jeffersonville while talking about climate change, and he said fentanyl deaths are down in Ohio after Vance went on the attack over the border.
Undecided Pennsylvania voter says politics today is 'extreme'
NBC News is watching the vice presidential debate with middle-of-the-road voters in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania.
Brandon Davis, 31, is an undecided voter leaning toward voting for the Harris-Walz ticket. He is frustrated by what he feels is a lack of middle ground.

"Everything is radicalized. Everything is extreme," he said. "Being young and African American, it seems like a lot of people are coming to the topic of politics late, and theyâre missing nuance.â
Trump and Vance vow mass deportations, with few specifics
Reporting from the VP debate in Manhattan
Trump and Vance have both gone to great lengths to avoid playing out how a mass deportation of millions of undocumented immigrants would actually work. They regularly say, as Vance just did, that you start with those who have broken other laws. But that doesnât get them anywhere close to the millions of deportations Trump promises or address the resulting family separations they would necessitate.
Walz on Hurricane Helene: Climate change is real
Walz tried to put some space between Vance and Trump on climate change, linking its effects to the catastrophic Hurricane Helene.
He launched into a list of "investments" made by the Biden-Harris administration through the Inflation Reduction Act of 2022, like electric vehicles and solar technology.
He said that at one point, Vance agreed that climate change was a problem.
"Donald Trump called it a hoax and then joked that these things would make more beachfront property to be able to invest in what we've seen out of the Harris administration," he said of climate change. "Now [with] the Biden-Harris administration ... we've seen this investment. We've seen massive investments."
Vance falsely suggests Harris doesn't believe in climate change
Asked whether he agrees with Trump's comments that climate change is a hoax, Vance falsely suggested that Harris doesn't believe in it herself.
"If the Democrats, in particular Kamala Harris and her leadership, if they really believe that climate change is serious, what they would be doing is more manufacturing and more energy production in the United States of America. And thatâs not what theyâre doing," Vance said.
He continued: "So clearly, Kamala Harris herself doesnât believe her own rhetoric on this. If she did, she would actually agree with Donald Trumpâs energy policies."
Harris has consistently been clear about her position â that climate change is real and the U.S. must take action to combat it.
Vance's deportation sandwich analogy
Reporting from the VP debate in Manhattan
On the campaign trail, Vance often uses the analogy of eating a large sandwich when asked about how a future Trump administration would implement the mass deportations that Trump has promised: one bite at a time. His answer on the debate stage is about as in-depth as his answers in battleground states.
Vance appears to call climate change 'weird science'
Vance called for a "robust" federal response to the devastation caused by Hurricane Helene across the Southeast, describing the death and destruction "an unbelievable, unspeakable human tragedy."
He was responding to a question about how a second Trump administration would combat climate change. âLetâs say itâs true for the sake of argument, so we donât argue about weird science; letâs say itâs true," he said of climate change, before he appeared to cast doubt on whether the problem is caused by carbon emissions.
Trump has repeatedly called climate change a hoax.
Jewish American voters in Pittsburgh react to Iran strikes
NBC News is watching the vice presidential debate with middle-of-the-road voters in Pittsburgh.
Rona Kaufman, 49, is a Jewish American voter who was glued to the news today as Iran launched a missile attack on Israel.

She said she is âreally thankfulâ that the U.S. supported Israel during todayâs attack.
Kaufman is currently undecided but leaning toward voting for Trump. She told NBC News, âI think every day, right now is so utterly critical and watching how this continues to unfold.â
Meryl Ainsman, 70, is also a Jewish American but plans to vote for Harris. She says the news today âverified what Iâve already felt, that the Biden-Harris administration has been very pro-Israel.â

âToday was really an existential threat for the state of Israel, once again, and the United States and the Biden administration, along with Vice President Harris, really stepped up,â Ainsman said.
Biden who? Vance repeatedly hammers the 'Kamala Harris administration'
While Trump repeatedly evokes Biden on the stump, Vance is on message tonight, trying to frame her as the central character in the White House.
He blamed the "Kamala Harris administration" for unfreezing Iranian assets; argued that Iran and Hamas attacked Israel "during the administration of Kamala Harris;" and criticized "Kamala Harris's policies" related to energy and manufacturing all in the debates first few questions. Missing in all of that, any reference to President Joe Biden.
Meanwhile, Walz made sure to give Biden some credit. During an answer on Hurricane Helene, the Democrat mentioned "the Harris administration," before correcting himself to the "Biden-Harris administration."
After Walz criticizes Trump tweets, Vance hits back
Vance deflected from Walz's quip about Trump's social media posts, saying, "Gov. Walz can criticize Donald Trump's tweets, but effective, smart diplomacy and peace through strength is how you bring stability back to a very broken world."
Then, he pivoted back to Trump's record as president, telling viewers: "Ask yourself at home, when, when was the last time â I'm 40 years old â when was the last time that an American president didn't have a major conflict break out? The only answer is during the four years that Donald Trump was president."
Earlier, Walz blasted Trump, saying: "Iran is closer to a nuclear weapon than they were before because of Donald Trump's fickle leadership. And when Iran shot down an American aircraft in international airspace, Donald Trump tweeted because that's the standard diplomacy of Donald Trump."
Unlike Trump, Vance doesn't mispronounce 'Kamala'
Reporting from the VP debate in Manhattan
You may hear Vance mispronounce Walzâs last name (pronounced like âWaltzâ instead of âWallsâ). But one name that he doesnât mispronounce? Kamala Harris. Despite many Republicans, even Trump himself, mispronouncing the vice presidentâs name, Vance rarely â if ever â does. His wife, Usha, and her family are Indian â a heritage that Harris herself shares.
Vance dodges question on how a future Trump administration would deport millions
Asked about Trump's pledge to carry out the largest mass deportations in history, Vance dodged the root of the question, which was about how a future Trump administration would execute such a plan.
"Before we talk about deportations, we have to stop the bleeding," Vance said before blasting Harris because she "said that she wanted to undo all of Donald Trump's border policies."
Then the Ohio senator blamed Harris for the fentanyl crisis and illicit drugs coming through the border.
"I'd ask my fellow Americans to remember, when [Harris] came into office, she said she was going to do this. Real leadership would be saying, 'You know what? I screwed up. We're going to go back to Donald Trump's border policies.' I wish that she would do that. It would be good for all of us," he finished, without addressing how Trump would execute his plan to deport millions.
Vance says it's up to Israel whether it would launch a pre-emptive strike on Iran
In response to the question about whether he would support or oppose a pre-emptive strike by Israel on Iran, Vance began by saying he wanted to introduce himself, though he eventually said it's up to Israel.
"Donald Trump actually delivered stability in the world, and he did it by establishing effective deterrence. People were afraid of stepping out of line," said Vance, who falsely claimed that Iran received more than $100 billion in unfrozen assets because of the Biden administration.
"What do they use that money for? They use it to buy weapons that theyâre now launching against our allies and, God forbid, potentially launching against the United States, as well. Donald Trump recognized that for people to fear the United States, you needed peace through strength," he said.
Regarding the question of a pre-emptive strike on Iran by Israel, Vance said, "It is up to Israel, what they think they need to do to keep their country safe, and we should support our allies, wherever they are when theyâre fighting the bad guys. I think thatâs the right approach to take with the Israel question."
Iran launched a missile attack on Israel earlier today.
Vance is comfortable taking questions; Walz is new to high-stakes speaking moments
Garrett Haake says: This is the advantage Vance gets from taking so many reporters' questions. He has reps on how to answer, or parry, basically any question â and not just from debate prep.
Adds Alex Seitz-Wald: Reminder that Walz had never used a teleprompter before being picked for VP. He's not used to such high-stakes speaking moments.
Candidates respond to Iran missile launch
Asked about whether he would support or oppose a pre-emptive strike by Israel on Iran, Walz emphasized the importance of steady leadership.
Walz pointed to former Trump administration staffers who have since turned into critics of Trump. He said Harris demonstrates "steady leadership" and understands that "allies matter."
Vance began his time allotted to answer the question talking about his upbringing. Later, Vance said Trump established "effective deterrence." On a pre-emptive strike, Vance said that it is up to what Israel desires.
Hitting back, Walz pointed to Trump's record on Iran, including exiting the Iran nuclear deal.
Walz hits Trump's age early on
Walz uses his first question, about Iran and Israel, to hit at Trumpâs age: âA nearly 80-year-old Donald Trump talking about crowd sizes is not what we need in this moment.â
Walz has continually painted Trump to voters as a "nearly 80-year-old" on the campaign trail.
Vance and Walz shake hands
Vance and Walz shook hands to kick off the debate, following in the footsteps of the tops of their tickets at the Sept. 10 debate.
Triumph the Insult Comic Dog makes an appearance in the spin room
Reporting from the VP debate in Manhattan
Triumph the Insult Comic Dog, the raunchy puppet voiced by Robert Smigel, just did a spin through the VP debate spin room.
He scored an interview with Sen. Mark Kelly, D-Ariz., and made several quips about Walzâs age. Triumph also asked Kelly, as a former astronaut, whether he could shed light on Vanceâs âhome planet.â
Trump didn't mention Vance at events in Wisconsin today
Trump on his own accord made no mention of Vanceâs debate during either of his two campaign events today in Wisconsin. At his first event in Waunakee, Trump made no reference to Vance or the debate at all.
At his second stop in Milwaukee, Trump didnât bring Vance up on his own. Over an hour into the event, when he was asked about tonightâs debate, Trump said his advice for Vance was, âHave fun.â
Trump also spoke for two hours at a rally in Erie, Pennsylvania, on Sunday and made no mention of Vance.
As Walz readies to take the stage, here's a look at how he got to this moment in his political career.
Walz and Vance have taken the stage
The debate will be underway shortly.
Reporting from the VP debate in Manhattan
As Vance readies to take the stage, here's a look at how he got to this moment in his political career.
Trump posts video promoting his live posting of debate
Ahead of the debate, Trump posted a video to his Truth Social account saying he would be posting updates throughout the debate. He said he won't say anything bad about Walz before the debate because he's going to "keep it really straight." Seeming to lower expectations for Vance, he also said Walz is "probably very underrated."
"We're gonna say good and bad about both. If JD makes a mistake, we're gonna say bad. And if Walz says something great, we'll say that was pretty good," Trump said.
One Thing to Watch: Will Vance and Walz shake hands?
The one thing I'm watching for tonight is whether Vance and Walz will shake hands.
Biden and Trump did not shake hands during the fated June debate that unraveled Biden's re-election bid.
As the new Democratic nominee, Harris broke stride with her predecessor during the Sept. 10 debate, making a beeline across the stage and initiating a handshake with Trump, whom she had never met before.
One Thing to Watch: Will Wisconsin get much love?
Walz will undoubtedly tout his record in Minnesota tonight, but one thing that Iâll be watching for is how much he refers to Wisconsin when doing so. Right after his selection, Democrats there told me repeatedly that as a neighbor to the battleground state, Walz appeals to Wisconsin voters because of his Midwestern vibes â he feels familiar even to folks who donât know him.
But Wisconsin Republicans at the time told me his familiarity as the liberal governor next door is a big riskâ a message reinforced by a homemade sign I recently saw that said, "Donât make Wisconsin Minnesota."
Tonight will be a test of both theories for me.
One Thing to Watch: Are we going to hear the word 'weird'?
"These guys are just weird."
Those five words, uttered on "Morning Joe" in late July, helped catapult Walz to the No. 2 spot on the Democratic presidential ticket. Walz has continued to mock Vance as "weird" on the campaign trail, and the word has been central to Democratic messaging.
I'm curious whether Walz will use the word "weird" on the debate stage tonight â or whether he will steer away from rhetoric that, however popular with the party's base, could be construed as inappropriate.
Middle-of-the-road voters in Pennsyvlania weigh their final picks
Reporting from Pittsburgh
NBC News is watching the vice presidential debate with middle-of-the-road voters in Pittsburgh.
Brian Geisler and Jon Graham have been close friends since elementary school.
Geisler, 43, is most likely reluctantly voting for Trump. He does not think the Biden administration has been great on the economy.
âI just donât think heâs done a good job,â Geisler said. âSo Iâve always been sort of socially liberal and fiscally conservative. I thought that under Trump we were actually in a very good place.â
His best friend from childhood, Graham, 43, is voting for Harris because of Project 2025.
âYou hear what Project 2025 is doing about how they basically intend to overthrow the Constitution, executive power all the way, and itâs beyond me that people could be OK with that in a presidential election," he said.
Clair Pro, 36, is an undecided voter. She voted for Biden in 2020 and is leaning toward Trump.
âI get caught up in the fact that I feel like these parties focus so much on low-hanging fruit, and they use these emotional ideas to really rally us, and then they have no plan to actually change those ideas," she said.
NBC News looks back at some of the most memorable moments from past vice presidential debates. From the first debate in 1976 between Sens. Walter Mondale and Bob Dole to the most watched vice presidential debate ever, between Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin and Sen. Joe Biden of Delaware.
One Thing to Watch: Can JD Vance repair his image?
What Iâm watching for is something we probably wonât know in real time tonight: whether Vance can turn his image around.
In our latest NBC News poll, Vanceâs positive rating is just 32%, with 45% viewing him negatively. Thatâs one of the highest net-negative ratings a VP candidate has amassed in the modern campaign era.
By contrast, Walz is seen positively by 40% and negatively by 33%.
Whether Vanceâs unpopularity endures, or even worsens, could have implications for November â and also for a prospective Vance presidential campaign in 2028.
Rep. Byron Donalds predicts Vance will refrain from personal attacks and focus on the issues
Rep. Byron Donalds, R-Fla., predicted tonight that Vance will focus on the issues and that Walz will try to âmuck up the debateâ with personal attacks about comments Vance has made in the past.
âIf you want to talk about what JD Vance said in an interview before he was a United States senator, thatâs fine. But what it proves is you donât care about the issues facing the American people,â Donalds told NBC News' Tom Llamas.
One Thing to Watch: The memeification of the debate
Iâm watching for how quickly memes come out of this debate â Gen Z seems to be obsessed with Walz, and there have been not-as-friendly memes about Vance. Whether Gen Z starts pumping out memes could be a quick indication about how â or whether â they're viewing the debate.
Georgia's top election official says offices were 'spared from substantial, long term damage' during hurricane
Georgia Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger said on X that state âelection offices were spared from substantial, long term damageâ from Hurricane Helene.
"Our staff will be working hand in hand with the counties that need the most support to ensure election operations remain on schedule," he said.
Early voting in Georgia is set to start on Oct. 15.
More than 150 people have died across Southeastern states from Hurricane Helene.
Senators from states hit by Hurricane Helene push for quick congressional action
Reporting from Washington
A bipartisan group of senators hailing from states affected by Hurricane Helene is calling for Congress to act quickly to pass disaster relief, perhaps returning early from its recess, which is supposed to last until after the Nov. 5 election.
All senators from North Carolina, South Carolina, Georgia, Florida, Tennessee and Virginia signed a letter today addressed to Senate leadership and top appropriators (senators charged with writing spending bills) with the request.
"Although the true level of devastation is still unfolding, it is clear that Congress must act to meet the unmet needs in our states and address the scope and scale of destruction experienced by our constituents," they wrote.
âThis may even require Congress to come back in October to ensure we have enough time to enact legislation before the end of this calendar year," they added.
It remains unlikely that Congress will return early from its recess. Congress just passed a government funding bill that is expected to give the Federal Emergency Management Agency the resources it needs in the near term. And, as NBC News has reported, officials are expected to take several weeks to finish assessing hurricane damage and determine what additional resources are required from Congress.
Still, a letter from senators whose constituents are most affected by the storm carries weight. And the optics of being off on recess during a natural disaster are not helping.
CBS announces Trump pulls out of pre-election '60 Minutes' interview while Harris will sit for one
CBS News' "60 Minutes" said in a statement on X that Trump had agreed to sit for an interview as part of its traditional prime-time election special airing Monday but that he has since pulled out.
The show said Harris will speak with correspondent Bill Whitaker, adding, "After initially accepting 60 Minutesâ request for an interview with Scott Pelley, former President Trumpâs campaign has decided not to participate."
Trump campaign spokesman Steven Cheung wrote on X that it was "fake news."
"60 Minutes begged for an interview, even after they were caught lying about Hunter Bidenâs laptop back in 2020," Cheung said. "There were initial discussions, but nothing was ever scheduled or locked in."
Trump later said in Milwaukee that he wants an "apology" from the show because of an interview he did previously and an issue involving Hunter Biden. "I'd love to do 60 minutes."
The show said the election special will broadcast the Harris interview Monday, as planned.
"Our original invitation to former President Donald Trump to be interviewed on 60 Minutes stands," the show said.
Harris senior adviser David Plouffe, who was Barack Obama's 2008 campaign manager, said on X: "Afraid of the debate stage. Afraid of 60 minutes. And his campaign team â after the last three days of increasingly unhinged and unstable ranting at his rallies â is clearly afraid of exposing him beyond comfortable confines."
Trump compares Iran-Israel conflict to 'schoolyard' fight: 'Sometimes you have to just sort of let it go a little bit'
In response to Iran's missile attack on Israel today, Trump compared the conflict to "two kids fighting in the schoolyard."
"Sometimes you have to just sort of let it go a little bit, and weâll see what happens," he said in Milwaukee when asked about the attack.
Trump said he thinks that had he been re-elected in 2020, all countries in the Middle East, including Iran, would have joined the Abraham Accords, which his administration brokered. The agreement normalized relations between Israel and the United Arab Emirates, as well as Bahrain.
In response to a question about whether he would use U.S. force against Iran, Trump said the "president of the United States should blow that country to smithereens."
"That president should make a statement to that effect," he said. "You're in danger right now. You're in danger right now because of them."
Trump appears fatigued at Milwaukee news conference
Trump is speaking less energetically than usual at a press conference in Milwaukee, where he has delivered sometimes hard-to-follow comments about topics such as the Covid pandemic and climate change.

"Global warming wasn't working because the planet's actually gotten a little bit cooler recently. But climate change covers everything. It can rain, it can be dry, it can be hot, it can be cold. Climate change. Everything is â look, and I'm â I believe I really am an environmentalist. I've gotten environmental awards. But I want clean, beautiful air and clean, beautiful water. That's all. Crystal clean water," Trump said at one point during the event.
Elsewhere in the unscripted remarks, Trump went into a digression about the movie character Rambo, famously played by Sylvester Stallone.
In recent months, Trump and Biden have both faced questions about their cognitive fitness. Trump, 78, trails Harris, 59, on the question of which candidate has the necessary mental and physical health to be president, according to a national NBC News poll of registered voters conducted Sept. 13-17.
Trump says he spoke with media mogul Rupert Murdoch today
Trump said at a campaign event in Milwaukee today that he has heard from a number of people lobbying him on school choice, including Rupert Murdoch, whose media empire includes Fox News.
"I got lots of calls. I even got a call from Rupert Murdoch, who I have a lot of respect for. And he said, 'School choice, school choice. You have to go with school choice.' That was just today. I said I didn't know he was that into school choice. But he feels very strongly about it," Trump said.
Trump said he agreed. "You have to do the school choice thing," adding that "our opponents are using government schools to indoctrinate children, pushing radical transgender ideology on children, changing the child's gender.â
"Not even believable," Trump said. "All of that's changing."
Biden signs bill enhancing Secret Service protection for presidential candidates
Biden today signed into law a bill that boosts Secret Service protection for major presidential candidates, the White House announced.
The bill sailed through Congress with unanimous support shortly after the second attempt on Trump's life.
The new law will give Trump and Harris the same level of protection as Biden. Acting Secret Service Director Ronald Rowe said last month that the agency needs a "paradigm shift" in its approach to protecting presidents after the two attempts on Trump's life this year. Rowe also said Trump was already receiving the highest levels of protection available and everything Biden was already receiving "with respect to Secret Service."
Trump says Springfield mayor should send immigrants 'home'
Trump said in remarks in Milwaukee, Wisconsin, that the mayor of Springfield, Ohio "doesn't want to say anything" negative about the immigrants in the community because "he wants to be politically correct."
"Virtually none of them speak English, so he's looking for interpreters when he should be looking for people to take them home because this country can't sustain what's happening to it," Trump said. "This country can't sustain hundreds of thousands of people coming in a month."
This isn't the first time the former president has talked about deporting the immigrants living in Springfield.
âThe fact is, and Iâll say it now, you have to get them the hell out. You have to get them out. Iâm sorry. Get them out,â Trump said at a campaign rally last week about immigrants in Springfield and Pennsylvania.
Vance has also said that if elected, a new Trump administration would revoke Temporary Protected Status for immigrants and deport them from the U.S.
Over the last month, Trump and Vance have promoted baseless conspiracy theories about Haitian migrants in Springfield eating dogs and other pets.
Port strikes put Democrats in a bind just weeks ahead of Election Day
A dockworkers' strike threatens to harm shipping, manufacturing, pre-holiday retail inventories â and Harrisâ bid for the presidency.
The International Longshoremanâs Association went on strike at 14 ports along the Atlantic Ocean and Gulf of Mexico at midnight, just hours before Walz squares off in a New York debate with Vance.
The dockworkers are demanding a pay raise and restrictions on the use of automation at ports, which they say could lead to job losses. They have been at an impasse with the United States Maritime Alliance, which represents shipping and port operations companies.
Harris launches ad that hits Trumpâs age in criticizing Vance
Reporting from Washington
Harrisâ campaign is launching a digital ad today slamming Vance as âextremistâ and a âdanger to our democracy.â
The spot argues Vance âcould be a heartbeat awayâ from the presidency if Trump wins in November, the first time the Democratic ticket has gone after Trumpâs age in paid media since Harris became the Democratic nominee, according to a Harris official.
The 50-second ad, which will target voters in battleground states, concludes with video of Trump appearing to slur his words at an event and then a Fox News host saying, âThe former president, heâs been off his game.â It is the first time the Harris campaign has used such clips in any of its ads, the official said.
One Thing to Watch: How do both candidates talk about manufacturing?
Manufacturing workers have been one of the most aggressively courted constituencies in modern politics â Trump was able to turn many reliable Democrats into voters for him. And Vance has long echoed Trump's tone and positions that he says support the working class (although Trump has also been criticized for making anti-labor comments, including praising Elon Musk for firing striking workers).
Biden was able to cut into Trump's margins, partly by touting his manufacturing bona fides.
Walz brings the Harris ticket a bit more credibility. Not just because he grew up in the Midwest, but also because his state is home to large iron ore mining operations â the backbone of the U.S. manufacturing industry. Walz has tried to walk the fine line when it comes to mining, careful not to upset environmentalists while also appearing not to be too big a champion for the industry.
But it's an arena where he can flex his credentials in trying to counter Vance. Will Walz lean into his manufacturing industry ties? Or try to find another way to counter Vance?
One Thing to Watch: Are we going to see more of Walz's regular guy persona?
Remember when Walz became Harrisâs running mate and seemed to electrify the race with his regular guy-high school football coach-plainspoken truth-teller persona?
He seemed like one of the Harris campaignâs best assets.
What happened to that guy? Where has he been?
At the debate tonight, look to see whether Walz reminds voters why he seemed so appealing in the summer and whether he leaves them wanting more.
Jack Smith pushes back on Trump 'election interference' argument
Special counsel Jack Smith's office denied claims from Trump's attorneys that its legal brief pushing back against Trump's presidential immunity arguments is politically motivated.

The Trump filing "includes his standard and unsupported refrain that the Governmentâs position is motivated by improper political considerations. That allegation is falseâjust as it was false when the Court denied the defendantâs motion to dismiss the case on grounds of selective and vindictive prosecution," Smith's office said in court papers.
"The Special Counselâs mandate is to uphold the law. It has no role or interest in partisan politics and has faithfully executed its prosecutorial duties in this case," the filing said.
It also took issue with Trump's request for more redactions before the sealed filing is made public and painted his position as hypocritical, calling it "an about-face from his previous objection 'to any of the proceedings in this case being conducted under seal.'"
Chuck Todd: Vice presidential debates reveal a lot about a campaign's strategy
Letâs dispatch with the obvious: Itâs hard for a VP debate to be that influential on this or any presidential campaign. Why am I so sure of this? Because of what happened in 1988. The debate between the GOP VP nominee, Dan Quayle, and the Dem nominee, Lloyd Bentsen, was perhaps one of the biggest one-sided affairs many of us have ever witnessed in a nationally televised debate. One could argue that Bentsenâs retort to Quayle, âSenator, I served with Jack Kennedy, I knew Jack Kennedy. Jack Kennedy was a friend of mine. Senator, you are no Jack Kennedyâ is a more famous debate one-liner than any ever uttered by an actual presidential campaign.  Â
And yet, Bentsenâs advantage over Quayle in that debate was dramatic and drastic and was so influential on swing voters that the GOP ticket won over 400 electoral votes. The point was, the voters didnât appear to vote on who they thought was the best No. 2 running for national office; they voted based on their views of the top of the ticket.Â
Now, if you are looking for a VP debate that might have had some impact, you could turn to 1976, the time we ever had a televised VP debate. My old mentor, Doug Bailey, a consultant to the Ford-Dole campaign in '76, used to contend that the Bob Dole-Walter Mondale VP debate â at which Dole referred to âDemocrat warsâ with this line: âIf we added up the killed and wounded in Democrat wars in this century, it would be ... enough to fill the city of Detroit.â â was damaging enough to cost the Ford-Dole ticket the handful of votes it needed to win the 76 election. Â
So with the caveats aside, the expectation for this debateâs impact is and should be quite minimal.Â
But that doesnât mean there isnât plenty to learn about campaign strategy from watching tonightâs debate.Â
Whatâs fascinating about VP debates is how hard they are for the two participants. They donât just have to be prepared to defend their own records and words â they also have to become adroit at defending the ideas and words of the tops of their tickets. And Walz has a third challenge, getting cornered into defending an administration he does not work in or has been involved in whatsoever. Â
What I suspect we will see is both Walz and Vance attempt is to make their opponent own his own words, especially those that each believes contradicts the other's views of their presidential running mates. I suspect Walz has memorized every bad thing Vance has ever said about Trump, and Iâll be shocked if he doesnât try and regurgitate most of it tonight.Â
I also suspect Vance will work hard to use the words âBiden-Harrisâ or âBiden-Harris administrationâ as much as he possibly can (could be worth using on your various Bingo cards). As plenty of polling has indicated, Biden turned out to be a lot more unpopular with voters than perhaps even Democrats suspected. The ease with which Harris has been able to fix her own personal ratings tells me being âBidenâs vice presidentâ was not good for her brand. But âKamala Harris, the Democratic nominee for president,â is a lot more appetizing for many Democrats.Â
If youâve noticed, Trump has been accelerating his efforts to remind voters â sometimes in very ham-handed ways â that Harris is part of the âBiden-Harrisâ administration. Itâs why he has tried to trash the storm response â an attempt to goad her into showing up in a formal role with storm response, perhaps even standing next to Biden for a photo-op. Trump has also tried to tie Harris to Bidenâs foreign policy challenges, including the growing crisis in the Middle East.Â
The point is: The Trump campaign appears to have concluded that if it wants Trump to be seen as the candidate of change, it has to re-connect Harris to Biden as much as it can.  Itâs probably the correct strategy at this point, but it also is a reminder that the Harris campaign has beaten the Trump campaign â so far â in the race to define her for the country.Â
So Iâll be watching what messages both candidates onstage try to pivot to when they deflect the actual questions they are asked. How often will Walz say âProject 2025,â and will it surpass or equal the Vance âBiden-Harrisâ retorts? Â
Iâll also be curious to see how much these two onstage prioritize their own brands over the brands of their running mates. Biden was also seen as a good team player during his VP debates, meaning he was more than willing to sacrifice any personal brand of his to help the top of the ticket. Dick Cheney was seen as a VP who also seemed comfortable sacrificing his own brand in support of George W. Bushâs. But Iâm old enough to remember Democratic grumbling about John Edwardsâ efforts in the 2004 debate, where many an operative in support of John Kerry thought Edwards was more worried about his own presidential future than Kerryâs.Â
Bottom line: The best way to assess how well either candidate does tonight is by how much cleanup the top of the ticket will end up doing later in the week. And if this is a debate that is more of a surrogate back-and-forth, then the other thing to learn will be what issues/ideas each campaign thinks are its best chance at wooing that small remaining slice of persuadable voters.Â
One Thing to Watch: Do tempers flare?
The first (and really only) rule for participating in a vice presidential debate is to do no harm. Thatâs why candidates prepare lines meant to knock rivals off guard and force harmful mistakes â and why they work hard with their handlers to anticipate and defuse whatever bombs might be lobbed in their direction.
Walz and Vance both have their pressure points.
Walz has the longer debate record, but Minnesota is something of a backwater on the national political scene. Vance is the less experienced debater, but for months, his team has been putting him in front of tough TV news interviewers to work out any bugs.
The tenor and tensions tonight could shift sharply if the conversation turns to racism. Vance was accused of indulging in racist conspiracy theories during a Senate debate two years ago, and he responded angrily by invoking his biracial family.
Vance to join spin room after the debate
Vance is expected to pop into the spin room after the debate, a source familiar with the planning told NBC News.
Walz comments on Tiananmen Square visit called into question
Walz, who has found himself under fire for mischaracterizing events in his life several times since he joined the Harris campaign, once again faces questions about his relationship â and the time he spent â in China.Â
In 2014, Walz, then a member of the House, said at a hearing focused on the 25th anniversary of the Tiananmen Square uprising that he was in nearby Hong Kong as the deadly protests unfolded in Beijing.
"As a young man, I was just going to teach high school in Foshan in Guangdong and was in Hong Kong in May of â89,â he said at the hearing. âAnd as the events were unfolding, several of us went in. And I still remember the train station in Hong Kong.â But an article in the Record newspaper of Chadron, Nebraska, in August 1989 reported that Walz, then a recent college graduate, "will leave Sunday en route to China." Minnesota Public Radio was first to report on the discrepancy.
Asked whether Walz was in Hong Kong in May 1989, as he said at the hearing and in a subsequent podcast interview, the campaign sent background information addressing Walzâs travel to and from China over the course of his life. It did not directly address the question.
According to a source familiar with Walz's comment, the point Walz is making when he discusses that is that some people in the World Teach program discussed dropping out after Tiananmen Square but that he continued with the program because he believed it was important for the Chinese people to learn about American democracy and American history.
After attack by Iran, Harris reiterates 'unwavering' commitment to Israeli security
Harris said this afternoon that she will always ensure Israel can defend itself and that her "commitment to the security of Israel is unwavering."
She called Iran's attack on Israel "reckless and brazen" and condemned it "unequivocally," saying Iran remains a destabilizing, dangerous force in the Middle East.
Harris said earlier in the day that she had monitored the developments from the White House Situation Room with Biden and their national security team.
She said she fully supports Biden's order to have the U.S. military help Israel in shooting down Iranian missiles. Harris said that they are still assessing the impact of the missile strike but that initial indications show "Israel was able to defeat this attack."
The U.S. and Israel's joint defenses "saved many lives," Harris said.
One Thing to Watch: Will Vance land the attack lines Trump wants?
Reporting from the VP debate in Manhattan
Trump sees his running mate as an extension of his own messaging â as most nominees do â and he made it clear to me in a phone interview today that he expects to see Vance on the attack against Harris on his two favorite issues: immigration and inflation.
Iâm watching to see whether Vance can do what Trump hasnât been able to so far: send Harrisâ numbers on the handling of those two issues back down, after she has seen steady polling improvement. Trumpâs attacks by now can feel rote to voters whoâve heard him hit the same marks time and again. Can Vance â far less well-known â provide a new frame for those seminal issues?Â
Republicans call for strong U.S. response after Iranâs attack
Congressional Republicans called for a strong U.S. response after Iranâs ballistic missile attack on Israel.
Sen. Lindsey Graham, R-S.C., described the attack in a statement as âthe breaking pointâ and urged the Biden administration to âcoordinate an overwhelming response with Israel,â beginning with Iranâs oil refineries.
Rep. Mike Lawler, R-N.Y., a member of the Foreign Affairs Committee, said in a statement, âWe should not take any option off the table, and Iran must be made to pay for this,â adding, âThe time for appeasement of the Ayatollah and his regime of terror is over.â
On X, Sen. Rick Scott, R-Fla., linked the attack to âyears of appeasementâ by the Biden administration and said the U.S. must give Israel âeverything it needs to respond.â
Graham wrote on X: âThe only thing the Iranian regime understands is strength. Now is the time to show unified resolve against Iran, the largest state sponsor of terrorism. We need decisive action, not just statements.â
Trump says Iran attacks shows world 'spiraling out of control'
Trump, speaking at a campaign event in Waunakee, Wisconsin, referred to the Iranian attack on Israel and said that "the world right now is spiraling out of control."
Trump used apocalyptic language referring to the missile attack. "I've been talking about World War III for a long time, and I donât want to make predictions because they always come true, but they are very close to global catastrophe," he said.
He later declared the attack would not have happened if he were president and said it occurred because other nations âdonât respect our country anymore.â
That line of attack on Biden and Harris has been a fixture in Trump's rallies, which portray the pair as weak on the international stage and suggest that weakness has led to more conflict around the world.
Trump accuses Jack Smith of trying to influence the election
Attorneys for Trump responded to special counsel Jack Smith's brief on presidential immunity in the 2020 election interference case and again accused him of trying to meddle in the 2024 election.
Smith filed the motion last week under seal and asked the judge to release a redacted version to omit grand jury information and witnesses' names.
In their response requesting further redactions, Trump's lawyers argued that Smith's office is being too cavalier with information that it previously argued should remain under wraps for fear that witnesses could be harassed.
"The true motivation driving the efforts by the Special Counselâs Office to disseminate witness statements that they previously sought to lock down is as obvious as it is inappropriate," the filing says.
"Indeed, the Officeâs implicit position is that all of these important considerations must give way to their objective of providing voters across the country immediate access to an unprecedented filing, with no legal basis, which just so happens to retread false allegations against the leading candidate for the Presidency during early voting for the 2024 election,â it argues.
The filing also again complains about the limited gag order in the case, which bars Trump from talking about witnesses and individual prosecutors. U.S. District Judge Tanya Chutkan has noted that the order doesn't bar Trump from making those complaints in court filings, but the filing said that's not his team's concern.
The "gag order restricts President Trumpâs ability to fully address the details of the filing on the campaign trail," the filing says.
Longtime Arizona lawmaker retiring after this election: 'It's time for somebody younger'
Rep. Raúl Grijalva, D-Ariz., announced he will retire after the election but will still be running this year in an interview in Arizona.

âI think 22 years [in office] is pretty good. Itâs a retirement age, not that Iâm abandoning what I do now, but that itâs time for someone else, and itâs time for somebody younger,â Grijalva, who is 76, told KOLD-TV of Tucson.
Grijalva was the second congressional Democrat to call on Biden to drop out of the race. He opened up in the interview about the criticism he faced from his own party. He said that the reaction was âbadâ and that he was told he was âbreaking up the party.â
In April, Grijalva said in a statement that he had been diagnosed with cancer and begun treatment.
After Iranâs attack on Israel, the Biden White House is desperately trying to avert a wider war in the Mideast
The Biden administrationâs monthslong effort to avert a full-blown war between Israel and Iran is being put to the most difficult test yet, as Tehran today launched a barrage of ballistic missiles at Israel.
The administration has worked around the clock for the past year trying to avoid a direct clash between its ally Israel and Iran. But now, administration officials face a potential worst-case scenario, as Iranâs attack will inevitably trigger a retaliation by the Israeli military. Such a chain reaction could possibly pull in the U.S. as it helps to defend Israel and other countries in the region.
House and Senate majority leaders have been briefed on Iranâs attack on Israel
Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer, D-N.Y., and House Speaker Mike Johnson, R-La., have been briefed on Iranâs missile attack against Israel, their spokespeople said.
U.S. lawmakers, including Sen. Lindsey Graham, R-S.C., and Sen. Marco Rubio, R-Fla., reacted to Iranâs missile attack on Israel by speculating on potential coordinated Israel-U.S. responses. NBC Newsâ Kristin Welker reports on how the attack could affect the 2024 presidential election.Â
Some Pennsylvania mail-in ballot envelopes have been sealed by humidity
Some Pennsylvania voters have received mail-in ballots with the return envelope already sealed due to humidity in the state, the Pennsylvania Department of State wrote in a post on X.
The department is encouraging voters to contact their county election offices for next steps if their ballots have been affected.
Biden, Harris monitoring Iranian attack in situation room
The president and vice president are monitoring the Iranian attack on Israel from the situation room in the White House, the administration said.
Biden directed the U.S. military to aid Israelâs defense against Iranian attacks and shoot down missiles that are targeting Israel, the White House said, and Biden and Harris are receiving regular updates from their national security team.
Trump, meanwhile, posted a statement on social media that read in part, in all-capital letters, "None of this happened while I was president!!" He filed an all-caps post shortly after calling the war "totally preventable."
Harris to travel to Georgia tomorrow in the aftermath of Hurricane Helene
As part of her travel to states affected by Hurricane Helene, Harris will visit Georgia tomorrow and North Carolina in the coming days, a White House official said.
Harrisâ visit to Georgia comes as Biden heads to North Carolina and South Carolina tomorrow to survey damage caused by the storm.
Former President Jimmy Carter is celebrating his 100th birthday and itâs the first time an American president has lived a full century. A sign on the north lawn of the White House is marking the special occasion and President Joe Biden has sent Carter a special birthday message.
Vance spin room surrogates include congressional allies and campaign aides
Reporting from New York City
Unlike the debate between Trump and Harris, where Vance took to the spin room to buoy his running mate's message, the senator's own message will be amplified by Senate allies like Katie Britt of Alabama and Tom Cotton of Arkansas after tonight's face-off with Tim Walz.
Vance's spin room delegation will also include vocal Trump allies from the House of Representatives â Elise Stefanik, of New York, and Byron Donalds, of Florida â as well as Trump's son Donald Trump, Jr., who lobbied his father for Vance to join the GOP ticket.
Iran has launched a ballistic missile attack on Israel
Iran has launched ballistic missiles at Israel, causing sirens to sound all over the country, the Israel Defense Forces said today.
Orange fire illuminated the sky over Israel as NBC News crews in both Tel Aviv and across the border in Tyre, Lebanon, viewed the apparent missiles being fired. Smaller streaks of light were also viewed, appearing to come from Israelâs aerial defense system as the country tried to ward off the attack.
Booms were also heard in video captured by NBC News, but itâs unclear whether the sound erupted from clashing missiles in the air or from Iranian missiles landing in Israel.
U.S. officials warned earlier in the day that Iran was preparing a ballistic missile strike targeting Israel, a senior White House official and a Defense Department official told NBC News today.
Biden calls for a deal on dockworkers strike, citing Helene recovery needs
President Joe Biden again called for a deal to be reached between the striking longshoremen at ports along the East Coast and Gulf Coast and the United States Maritime Alliance (USMX) in a statement, saying he urged the group, which represents freight companies and ports, to âpresent a fair offerâ to the dockworkers âthat ensures they are paid appropriately in line with their invaluable contributions.â
In the statement, the president noted that dockworkers âwill play an essential roleâ in recovery efforts from Hurricane Helene and therefore the need to negotiate a fair contract is urgent.
âAs our nation climbs out of the aftermath of Hurricane Helene, dockworkers will play an essential role in getting communities the resources they need,â Biden said. âNow is not the time for ocean carriers to refuse to negotiate a fair wage for these essential workers while raking in record profits. My Administration will be monitoring for any price gouging activity that benefits foreign ocean carriers, including those on the USMX board.â
âIt is time for USMX to negotiate a fair contract with the longshoremen that reflects the substantial contribution theyâve been making to our economic comeback,â he added.
North Carolina election officials are still surveying hurricane damage
Election officials in North Carolina said today they're still surveying the scope of the damage caused by Hurricane Helene and preparing for various contingencies to ensure as smooth an election as possible.
"We do not have all the answers right now, but we are diligently working to figure them out," Karen Brinson Bell, executive director of the State Board of Elections, said in a briefing for reporters.
Brinson Bell said a dozen county election offices in the hard-hit western part of the state are still closed, and "we are focused now getting those offices back up and running so that absentee ballot requests can be processed and voter registrations can be entered into the system."
Brinson Bell said theyâve been coordinating with state and federal officials, as well as state emergency management, to identify areas that might need extra help. âI think we all recognize that as roads come back open, theyâre going to be able to determine which roads are truly compromised and cannot be repaired immediately," she said. "Therefore, there may be other actions we need to take for voters in that area or those affected areas that are more isolated or shut off from services.â
The voter registration deadline is Oct. 11, and it's possible for voters to register online, Brinson Bell said. The board has also set up a page on its website to help affected residents who have problems, questions and concerns. Those who are worried their absentee ballots have been lost can request new ones, and they can be tracked to ensure there's no double counting, she said.
People in the state "can have faith in these processes that have been long established to deliver the results accurately, safely and securely," she said.
Biden to travel to the Carolinas tomorrow to survey Helene damage
Biden is scheduled to travel to North Carolina and South Carolina tomorrow, the White House said.Â
The president will take an aerial tour of areas affected by Hurricane Helene in western North Carolina, receive operational briefings and meet with first responders and local officials.
Biden will also meet with first responders and state and local officials in South Carolina before he goes to North Carolina.
Rudy Giuliani's daughter endorses Harris and laments her father's work for Trump
Former New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani's daughter, Caroline Giuliani, said she is endorsing Harris and mourning the impact of her father's association with Trump, in an article in Vanity Fair.
In the article, she described the âmix of fear, anger, confusion, and sadness that often had me crying over my dad, and for him, at the same time" after he decided to work for Trump, whom she decried as a âcon-man.â
"As Rudy Giuliani's daughter, Iâm unfortunately well-suited to remind Americans of just how calamitous being associated with Trump can be, even for those who are convinced heâs on their side," she wrote. "Watching my dadâs life crumble since he joined forces with Trump has been extraordinarily painful, both on a personal level and because his demise feels linked to a dark force that threatens to once again consume America."
Rudy Giuliani was disbarred in New York and Washington, D.C., over his efforts to help Trump overturn the 2020 election results and filed for bankruptcy after a multimillion-dollar verdict against him for defaming two election workers.
Caroline Giuliani said in her essay that she is voting for Harris because âshe is the only candidate who cares about my rights as a woman,â citing the Supreme Courtâs overturning of Roe v. Wade in 2022 during Trumpâs presidency.
She previously endorsed Hillary Clintonâs 2016 presidential campaign and Biden in 2020.
Biden briefed on possible Iran missile attack on Israel
President Joe Biden has been briefed and updated on Iranâs possible ballistic missile attack on Israel and the overall situation in the Middle East over the last several hours, a senior White House official said.
The president also convened a meeting with Harris and their national security team this morning to discuss the threat of an attack and U.S. preparations to help Israel defend itself and to protect U.S. personnel in the region, the White House said in a statement.
Iran is expected to target military and government sites, not civilian, a senior White House official and a Defense Department official said. The potential attack comes after Israel launched a ground invasion against Hezbollah in southern Lebanon today after killing Hassan Nasrallah, the leader of the militant group, which the U.S. has designated a terrorist organization.
Trump says he expects Vance to go on the attack on immigration tonight
Trump expects and hopes immigration will be the dominant topic of tonightâs vice presidential debate, and he expects Vance to go on the attack on the issue, which has undergirded all of his presidential campaigns, the former president told NBC News.Â
âI think he will expose what a scam the governor is and the president is in terms of the border.â Trump said when asked what Vance needs to do to have a strong showing tonight against Walz.Â
Asked about a comment he made yesterday that he hadnât given Vance any direct debate advice, Trump said:Â âHe doesnât need a log of advice. Heâs a pro.â
The former president expressed satisfaction over his visit to storm-battered Valdosta, Georgia, yesterday and said he has spoken with Elon Musk about getting Starlink satellite internet systems in place to improve communications in North Carolina, where heâs scheduled to campaign Friday.Â
Musk posted on X about their conversation and said overnight he would send the terminals.
Trump also said heâs closely watching reports suggesting an imminent Iranian attack on Israel.Â
âThey should not do it. It would be a big mistake if they do,â Trump said. âThey have no respect for the [Biden] administration. This would have never happened if I was president. Zero chance.â
Trump, who regularly claims that a vote for Harris is a vote to move closer to a potential World War III, concluded our call with this summation: âThe sooner we get them out of office, the better off weâll be and the safer the world will be."
Trump falsely claimed Biden had refused to get on the phone with Georgiaâs Republican governor, Brian Kemp, about aid for Hurricane Helene. Biden said âHeâs lying, and the governor told him he was lying.â The White House and Kemp say the two leaders spoke the night before. NBCâs Peter Alexander reports for "TODAY."
Trump touts his economic agenda in Newsweek opinion piece
Trump touted several of his economic proposals in an opinion piece published in Newsweek this morning, outlining how he intends to âMake America Affordable Again,â a tagline he often uses at the end of his rally speeches.
The former president suggested that if elected, he will incentivize companies that have left the U.S. to return.
âGerman car companies can become American car companies,â Trump wrote. âWe can beat China in electronic production. Manufacturers that have left us will come sprinting back to our shores.â
Trump repeated his previous calls to impose massive tariffs on foreign-made products if he wins a second term in office, saying âwe will use the hundreds of billions of tariff dollars to benefit American citizens.â He also repeated his promises to enact a 15% corporate tax rate, cut energy prices in half and set up âspecial zones on federal land with ultra-low taxes and regulations for Americans.â
Trumpâs op-ed comes the same day as the vice presidential debate between his running mate and Walz.
Trump has argued that using massive tariffs will raise revenues and offer protection to U.S.-based industries and jobs. But many economists say that in general, while tariffs can have some benefits, they also lead to higher prices for U.S. consumers, with businesses passing the higher up-front costs they pay for imported goods along to their customers.
Harris has pushed back at Trumpâs proposal on tariffs, criticizing his plan that they be across the board and calling the idea âa sales tax on the American peopleâ in an interview with MSNBC last week. Her plans include expanding the child tax credit, raising corporate taxes and taking actions to make housing more affordable.
Harris campaign names surrogates coming to the VP debate tonight
Several surrogates for the Harris campaign are expected to be in the spin room, where candidates or their campaign representatives speak to the media, at the vice presidential debate tonight, the campaign announced.
They include Sens. Amy Klobuchar of Minnesota, Mark Kelly of Arizona and Ben Ray Luján of New Mexico; Colorado Gov. Jared Polis; Illinois Gov. JB Pritzker; Texas Rep. Jasmine Crockett; and Democratic National Committee Chair Jaime Harrison.
Biden urges striking dockworkers to negotiate 'fairly and quickly'
Biden and Harris are closely monitoring the strike by tens of thousands of longshoremen on major ports along the East Coast and Gulf Coast, the White House said in a statement, adding that the president directed his team to âconvey his message directly to both sides that they need to be at the table and negotiating in good faith â fairly and quickly.â
The White House said Biden asked chief of staff Jeff Zients and economic adviser Lael Brainard to convene board members of the United States Maritime Alliance, which represents freight companies and ports, and urged them to resolve the strike âin a way that accounts for the success of these companies in recent years and the invaluable contributions" of International Longshoremenâs Association workers.
Transportation Secretary Pete Buttigieg, acting Labor Secretary Julie Su and Brainard have also been in contact with the both groups.
Biden and Harris are also âclosely monitoring potential supply chain impactsâ of the strike, the White House said, providing agency assessments that found the strike would have no or a limited immediate effect on the availability of food, fuels and medicines.
Biden has directed his supply chain disruptions task force to meet daily and prepare for any potential disruptions, the White House said. The president also asked his team to continue communicating with labor, industry, state and local officials, ocean carriers, and rail and trucking companies.
Doug Emhoff campaigns in Wisconsin on same day as Trump
Second gentleman Doug Emhoff is hitting the campaign trail in battleground Wisconsin today, where he'll speak at an event in the same city as Trump.
Both Emhoff and Trump will be in Milwaukee for campaign events.
Legal battle over new Georgia election rules goes to trial
A trial kicks off today over new election rules approved by the Georgia State Elections Board in August.
The Elections Board passed two rules giving local officials new powers to investigate election results, a move critics said conflicted with state law and could lay the groundwork for delaying â or even blocking â certification of the election.
The Democratic National Committee, the Democratic Party of Georgia and several individuals including county board members sued the elections board in late August, asking the court to pause the rules to the extent they conflict with the law.
The outcome of the trial could be pivotal for the Nov. 5 general election, as Georgia and its electoral votes are expected to play a key role for either campaign.
The trial kicks off during a litigation-heavy election season in Georgia. Yesterday, Democrats filed a lawsuit over the elections board requiring poll workers to hand-count ballots, an eleventh-hour move that could delay the reporting of election results this fall.
Arizona abortion-rights advocates pour $15 million into ballot measure ad blitz
A coalition of reproductive rights organizations is unleashing a $15 million advertising campaign backing abortion rights as Arizona faces a key ballot measure on the issue this fall.
The state constitutional amendment put forward by Arizona for Abortion Access, known as Proposition 139, would create a âfundamental rightâ to receive abortion care up until fetal viability (or about the 24th week of pregnancy), with exceptions after that point if a health care professional decides itâs needed to âprotect the life or physical or mental health of the pregnant individual.â
Under current Arizona law, abortion is legal up until the 15th week of pregnancy, with an exception after that to save the motherâs life or âor for which a delay will create serious risk of substantial and irreversible impairment of a major bodily function.â The current abortion law has no exceptions after 15 weeks in cases of rape or incest.
Harris launches multimillion-dollar TV ad blitz hitting Trumpâs âconcepts of a planâ for health care
Reporting from Washington
Harris is launching a seven-figure ad blitz about health care targeting Trumpâs calls to replace the Affordable Care Act with a mystery plan he hasnât yet released.
The ad campaign, first reported by NBC News, is aimed at elevating the issue and capitalizing on what polling says is a weakness for Trump. The new 60-second spot features Trump saying during his face-to-face debate with Harris that he has âconcepts of a planâ to remake the U.S. health care system.
âYou have no plan,â Harris tells Trump in the ad while touting her calls for protecting the ACA (or âObamacareâ) and extending the Biden-Harris policies that expanded subsidies to buy coverage and capped the cost of insulin for seniors at $35 per month.
Jimmy Carter turns 100
Jimmy Carter has accomplished something no other former U.S. president has â he notched a 100th birthday.
Carter, who served one term in the White House, hit the milestone today at his home in Plains, Georgia, where he has been receiving hospice care for the last 19 months.
The proud Democrat, who has grown increasingly weaker in recent months, has told relatives he wants to hang on until Oct. 15, when early voting begins in Georgia, so he can cast his ballot in the 2024 presidential election.
âIâm only trying to make it to vote for Kamala Harris,â Carter said, his grandson Jason Carter told The Atlanta Journal-Constitution.Â
Jon Tester and Tim Sheehy debate in Montana with the Senate on the line
The central clash in the pivotal Senate race in Montana â and the fight for control of the Senate itself â was on full display last night as Democratic Sen. Jon Tester and Republican Tim Sheehy faced off in a heated debate.Â
Like other Republican challengers around the country, Sheehy, a former Navy SEAL, painted Tester as liberal cog in the national Democratic Party machine, unable to address concerns about high costs and border security in a state that Trump has twice won easily.
Like other vulnerable Senate Democrats, Tester tried to make it personal â touting his bipartisan bona fides, highlighting his own connections to his red-leaning state and suggesting his opponent cannot be trusted.
Where's Trump today?
Trump will be in Wisconsin to speak to voters ahead of Vance's debate tonight with Walz.
Trump, who is ramping up his campaigning with Election Day just over a month away, will begin October by doubling up on events.
He starts the day in Wanaukee, speaking at a metal solutions manufacturing company, before making his way to Milwaukee in the evening.
What to watch for at tonightâs VP debate between Vance and Walz
When Vance and Walz take the stage in New York City for tonightâs vice presidential debate, it will be their first in-person meeting.
But Vance and Walz have been nipping at each other from afar for weeks, playing the customary role of attack dog on opposing tickets.
The stakes for their 90-minute debate, hosted by CBS News and scheduled to begin at 9 p.m. ET, are unusually high for an undercard clash. The race between Harris and Trump is tight nationally and in the battleground states, according to recent polling. Given that Trump hasnât agreed to a second showdown with Harris, Vance vs. Walz could very well be the last debate before Election Day.