3 years ago / 9:10 PM EDT

Committee shows footage of Josh Hawley fleeing after he 'riled up' protesters


The Jan. 6 committee played footage of Sen. Josh Hawley, R-Mo., fleeing from rioters after he saluted protesters outside the Capitol on Jan. 6.

The committee revealed at the hearing that a Capitol Police officer told them that Hawley's decision to fist pump toward the protesters had "riled up" the crowd, making officers' jobs more difficult. The barriers on the east side of the Capitol, where Hawley gave his salute, were soon breached.

Many of the members of the crowd who were present when Hawley saluted them joined the mob after the barricades were breached.

The video of Hawley running away elicited a burst of laughter in the hearing room.

3 years ago / 9:08 PM EDT

Pence evacuated a second time after Trump tweet blaming him, Luria says

Pence was evacuated to safety a second time after Trump blamed him publicly, putting a target on his own vice president's back, Luria said.

"Mike Pence didn’t have the courage to do what should have been done to protect our Country and our Constitution," Trump tweeted at 2:24 p.m.

Two minutes later, security officials moved to evacuate Pence, and during that process, he came within 40 feet of rioters, who quickly escalated their attack following Trump's social media post, Luria continued.

Trump, meanwhile, returned to his efforts to delay the certification of Joe Biden's election win by calling Republican senators, Luria said, including Tommy Tuberville of Alabama, who later recalled that he had to end that call to evacuate the Senate chamber.

3 years ago / 9:00 PM EDT

Committee shows chat from NSC staffers, plays video about Secret Service agents fearing for their lives

Luria showed a chat among National Security Council staff as the insurrection unfolded on Jan. 6 and played a video clip from an anonymous national security professional who said Secret Service agents feared for their lives that day.

"At 2:13, the staff learned that rioters were kicking in windows at the Capitol. Three minutes later, the staff said the vice president was being 'pulled,' which meant agents evacuated him from the Senate floor," Luria said, describing the chat. "At 2:24, the staff noted that the Secret Service agents at the Capitol did not 'sound good right now.'"

The committee then played testimony from a White House security staffer who recently answered questions about that day. The clip was modified, Luria said, to protect the person's identity.

Asked what "service at the Capitol does not sound good right now" meant, the security official told the committee that members of Pence's Secret Service detail "were starting to fear for their own lives."

"There was a lot of yelling, a lot of — I don’t know — a lot of very personal calls over the radio," the person said. "So, it was disturbing. I don’t like talking about it, but there were calls to say goodbye to family members and so forth. It was getting, for whatever the reason was on the ground, the V.P. detail thought that this was about to get very ugly."

The security official said it was "chaos." When asked to elaborate about what prompted the person to write in the chat "service at the Capitol," the person said they were referring to the Secret Service "running out of options" and were "getting nervous."

The person then said it sounded like Secret Service agents "came very close to either Service having to use lethal options or worse."

"At that point, I don’t know. Is the V.P. compromised? Is the detail — like, I don’t know. Like, we didn’t have visibility, but it doesn’t — if they’re screaming and saying things, like, say goodbye to the family, like the floor needs to know this is going to a whole another level soon," the person said at the end of the video clip.

3 years ago / 8:57 PM EDT

Pence was stuck for 13 minutes as Secret Service tried to find clear path out

The vice president was stuck in his office for 13 minutes as Secret Service agents tried to find a safe route to get him to a secure location, Luria said.

"As rioters were entering the building, the Secret Service held Vice President Pence in his office right off the Senate Chamber for 13 minutes as they worked to clear a safe path," Luria said.

She also played dramatic radio footage from the agents, who said rioters were just feet away and they were concerned about becoming trapped.

"If we lose any more time, we may lose the ability to leave," one of the agents said.

"There are six officers between us and the people that are 5 to 10 feet away from me," another said.

3 years ago / 8:52 PM EDT

Kellogg worried Trump delivering speech during riot would make matters worse, Kinzinger says

Keith Kellogg, who served as Pence’s national security adviser, told the committee that some staff were concerned that Trump speaking live amid the riot would make matters worse, Kinzinger said.

Kinzinger recounted that Kellogg said he advised against Trump holding a live news conference at the time because he said he hadn't witnessed a "single clean press conference" during his four years with the Trump administration.

"Trump’s advisers knew his state of mind at that moment, and they were worried what he would say in unscripted comments," Kinzinger added.

3 years ago / 8:51 PM EDT

House GOP leadership attacks Sarah Matthews during testimony

The official Twitter account of the House Republican caucus attacked the credibility of Sarah Matthews, a former Trump White House press aide who resigned shortly after the Jan. 6 attack, as she testified Thursday.

"Just another liar and pawn in Pelosi’s witch-hunt," said the account, which is overseen by the office of Rep. Elise Stefanik, R-N.Y., the GOP caucus chair.

The tweet linked to a post from Matthews thanking Trump on the day he left office, on Jan. 20, 2021. On Thursday, Matthews opened her testimony by establishing her GOP bona fides, calling herself a "lifelong Republican" and one of the first communications staffers on Trump's re-election campaign, before she joined the White House. She is also a former House Republican staffer herself.

Alyssa Farah, a former Trump White House aide who worked with Matthews, responded in her own tweet: "Hey geniuses, you realize this gives @SarahAMatthews1 more credibility? She’s there because she wanted to serve Trump. She believed in him like millions Americans. On 1/6 he let her & our entire country down."

The House Republican caucus later deleted the tweet attacking Matthews.

3 years ago / 8:45 PM EDT

Cipollone said he spoke to Mark Meadows on Jan. 6 'forcefully' about getting Trump to call off riot

The committee played video during the hearing of testimony provided by Cipollone in which he explained how he pushed for the president to call off the mob on Jan. 6.

As the attack on the Capitol was underway, Cipollone said he "was pretty clear there needed to be an immediate and forceful response, statement, public statement, that people need to leave the Capitol now."

"Many people felt the same way," he said, including White House chief of staff Mark Meadows. "I’m sure I had conversations with Mark about this during the course of the day and expressed my opinion very forcefully, that this needs to be done."

Cipollone said that up until 4:17 p.m. that day, he and others — Ivanka Trump, Eric Herschmann and Meadows — were pushing Trump to issue a "stronger statement" after the tweets he posted.

3 years ago / 8:40 PM EDT

Witness: W.H. adviser said president 'didn't want anything done'

A former White House employee with national security responsibilities told the committee that the Pentagon was unable to get ahold of the president about the riot on Jan. 6.

The witness recounted a conversation between senior adviser Eric Herschmann and Cipollone "about a pending call from the Pentagon seeking to coordinate on the response to the attack," Luria said. 

"Mr. Herschmann turned to Mr. Cipollone and said 'the president didn’t want anything done.' Mr. Cipollone had to take the call himself," Luria said.

3 years ago / 8:40 PM EDT

Trump never made phone calls to law enforcement, former W.H. officials say

Trump never made an effort to call upon the U.S. Secretary of Defense, National Guard or even law enforcement for aid in quelling the insurrection, former White House counsel Pat Cipollone said in a taped interview with the committee played Thursday.

Keith Kellogg, who served as Pence’s national security adviser, was also asked if he heard Trump asking for law enforcement response. He said no, adding later that he would have been made aware of any call for troops.

The committee also showed footage from an interview with former Trump assistant Nick Luna. He too said he was "unaware of any" requests for support from the National Guard, Department of Defense, Homeland Security or the FBI.

Instead, Luria said, Trump called a number of senators.

3 years ago / 8:36 PM EDT

White House call logs, diary contain no info during 'critical period' on Jan. 6

Luria said that Trump was in the White House dining room on Jan. 6 with the TV on for 2 1/2 hours, but "there is no official record of what President Trump did while in the dining room."

Luria then showed a presidential call log from Jan. 6 on screen during the hearing.

"As you can see, there is no official record of President Trump receiving or placing a call between 11:06 a.m. and 6:54 p.m.," she said, adding that the presidential daily diary also contained no information.

"As to what the president was doing that afternoon, the Presidential Daily Diary is also silent — it contains no information for the period between 1:21 p.m. and 4:03 p.m.," she said.

Luria said there are no photos of Trump during this "critical period" between 1:21 p.m. in the Oval Office and when he went outside to the Rose Garden after 4 p.m.

"The chief White House photographer wanted to take pictures because it was, in her words, 'very important for his archives and for history.' But she was told, 'no photographs,'" Luria said.